Media voted MJ for DPOY but his peers all said Pip was that guy

[FultzNationRISE]

Is this another one of those cases where the media pushes a narrative to make a guy more marketable, but the people who were there saw something completely different?

Whats up?

[GimmeThat]

again, it occured during the era in which ex-basketball players hadn't flooded the media population.

[TheMan]

Is this another one of those cases where the media pushes a narrative to make a guy more marketable, but the people who were there saw something completely different?

Whats up?

Which peers? I've seen some pretty great defensive players like Ron Artest amongst others say MJ was one of the best defenders of all time. If Artest knows anything at all, it's defense.

[3ba11]

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Statistical facts about Lebron's career


* #1 all-time in turnovers, missed shots and top 5 in missed FT's

* Inferior to Jordan at OREB, SPG, BPG, TO's, PPG, jumpshooting efficiency, FT efficiency, post, off-ball, clutch efficiency, game-winner efficiency, efficiency per possession (ortg), Finals win %, Playoff win %, regular season win %, PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48

* 17 of 21 seasons were either lottery, 1st Round loss, sweep loss, record loss, upset loss or locked up in a loss

* 3 losses with 2 all-star teammates (11',14', 17') and 4 losses with favored talent/preseason favorites (11', 14', 15', 21')

* Less APG in playoffs than Jordan thru half their chips (pre-curry era)

* Zero all-defense for latter half of chips (no all-defense in his 30's/Curry era)

* Turns teammates into spot-up shooter (lowers their assists and increases their assisted rate)

* Zero young player development (zero young players increased from low producer to meaningful producer on his watch)

* Low assist teams

* Zero #1 offenses

* Worst championship record ever - lottery record on championship level with every cast (low team ceiling, aka low chemistry "Bron-ball)"

* Never carried weak help over top teams, aka never won a series vs top 5 SRS team with weak scoring and efficiency from sidekick (zero carry-jobs vs top teams in 2 decades)

* 16 on 39% thru 3 games of 13' Finals and 23 on 43% was insufficient thru 6, so it was another 2011 choke but Ray Allen forced Game 7.. Heat didn't win with Lebron on floor in that series (zero plus minus and negative net rating for Lebron)

* Always had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention, so he never defeated max defensive attention (never carried scoring load on championship level)