Is Grayson Allen better than Bradley Beal?

[ArbitraryWater]

I remember RMWG saying hes just a run of the mill roley

[Jasper]

Obviously he doesn’t go off often or he wouldn’t average 12.9 a game. He had 16 points the previous 3 games combined and one twenty point night since January 15th. Hes having a great year but it’s a great role player year. Hes not expected to step up nightly and with good reason. He plays off others.

beal is 100 % a polished shooter... allan has defensive presence.

[SATAN]

I think Beal was always overrated tbh. Is Allen a better player though? Not really. Is he a good fit with KD and Booker? Absolutely.

This thread is hilarious.

[NBAGOAT]

hard to fit beal on a title team is a problem. He needs the ball too much for a 3rd option and doesnt do other things pass/shoot/defend etc well enough and he's not good enough to be a 2nd option on a title team. When he's on the court with both durant/booker he has role player production. when he's on with just one of them, his volume and efficiency are still mediocre for a sidekick. When it's just him he's scoring a lot but inefficient.

Most likely he's just a 2nd option on a decent playoff team like a prime derozan maybe current siakam. ideal role for him is being 3rd best player but 2nd option on a team with a 2nd star who has elite impact but doesnt need the ball.

[BarberSchool]

No.

But Allen, as much as we hate him, is having an incredible season.
He’s a gritty tough, DIRTY defender, and hits 3’s at a league leading rate.
Also a very underated transition finisher and half court slasher. I would be interested to see any stats to explain his slashing against weak side closeouts, after a Durant or Booker double.

Great to have dirty, efficient sniper a&$holes like him as teammates, instead of opponents.

And on the flip side, Beal is not having a good season, for many reasons. Shame, as Beal is a really great dude.

[TAZORAC]

Grayson Allen is better then Austin Reaves

[Lebron23]

It’s interesting because he was not shooting like this in Milwaukee. If he had they probably wouldnt have moved him in the first place.

So the question is whether this is an outlier year for him and he’ll regress toward the mean eventually, or if this is his new normal.

But of course if he's gonna remain the best statistical shooter in the game then he’s a pretty valuable guy. My feeling is he cant keep this level up indefinitely, and most importantly will the pressure of the playoffs bring him back down to Earth? Joe Harris used to shoot like this in the regular season, but he could never buy a basket in the playoffs and now hes irrelevant. If Allen isnt shooting 45% on threes or whatever it is, then hes just another guy.

He trained with Lethal Shooter

[wagexslave]

As a Suns fan, it's hard to say because Beal has dealt with injuries all season. And yeah on paper it seems like Grayson has been the better scorer. But I feel that Beal is still probably overall more crucial to the team's success than Grayson. Really with how weak some of our bench pieces are, we need everyone in our main rotation healthy. But I think Beal's importance to the team being able to win a playoff series is still a notch above Grayson's.

The team is more dynamic with Beal on the court, they miss him like crazy when he's out. Him being there with his better handles/crossovers and ability to drive/cut to the basket and get shots at the rim, and his transition scoring ability and good passing are all things the team severely lacks without him. And his ability to draw fouls and get to the line when we need it. Etc.

In general, the team plays at a much healthier pace when Beal is playing. The Suns in general need to consistently push a faster pace and are so much better when they're getting out in transition. So many times the Suns are just playing piss slow iso ball wasting 20 seconds off the shot clock and dumping off the ball to someone who's well defended. It's so frustrating and lazy, I'll never understand it. When they're moving the ball running actual plays they're deadly.

Another thing is, since we don't have a true PG on the team, we need both Booker and Beal playing for our "point guard by committee" system to work properly. Beal is just a better secondary ballhandler than Grayson... he's a better initiator of the team offense in general. Grayson can do it too, but it just doesn't seem to be as effective.

Grayson has been great though.He's just been money all year with those spot up 3's. But he's not as great at creating his own shot and gets blocked a lot when driving into the paint(to the point where he's noticeably uncomfortable driving at defenders). Still so happy we got him in the Ayton trade and hope we can somehow keep him in the offseason.

[coin24]

Beal is trash.. Grayson on fire right now

[wagexslave]

Wow Grayson has EIGHT 3-pointers in the 2nd quarter rn... his accuracy this year is nuts. He might break the franchise record tonight.

[tpols]

Wow Grayson has EIGHT 3-pointers in the 2nd quarter rn... his accuracy this year is nuts. He might break the franchise record tonight.

He cooled off but was still +9 to Beals 0. Someone needs to tell Brad to play defense. Isn't Frank Vogel the coach? He's a defense guy

[tontoz]

He cooled off but was still +9 to Beals 0. Someone needs to tell Brad to play defense. Isn't Frank Vogel the coach? He's a defense guy

Good luck with that lol.

[highwhey]

HEY GUYS RMBR THAT I SAID HIS CONTRACT WASN'T WORTH IT? - wf in every single beal thread

[tontoz]

^ yeah pretty sure eveyone agrees except Kblaze.