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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
"Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
6 titles. 3 for you I'm guessing Bill
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
I actually bumped into Cartwright years ago in SF and asked him who was tougher to guard between Kareem & Hakeem and he gave me this unexpected answer of "I didn't look at my opponents that way, my job was to go 100% with no fear against anyone". The way he tried to prop up himself like he was some superstar was funny to see.
It's no secret Cartwright didn't like MJ and vice versa. MJ would tell teammates to not pass him the ball, but many people felt Cartwright was the leader on that 1st 3 peat team, kinda in a Dad way.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
I actually bumped into Cartwright years ago in SF and asked him who was tougher to guard between Kareem & Hakeem and he gave me this unexpected answer of "I didn't look at my opponents that way, my job was to go 100% with no fear against anyone". The way he tried to prop up himself like he was some superstar was funny to see.
It's no secret Cartwright didn't like MJ and vice versa. MJ would tell teammates to not pass him the ball, but many people felt Cartwright was the leader on that 1st 3 peat team, kinda in a Dad way.
Oakley was his buddy and they traded him for Cartwright
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Titles are overrated
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
The players essentially work, travel, and live with their teammates for years. It’s natural they would have a different perspective than the fans who watch them play and make assumptions based on results and media. Who am I to say how players felt personally? Obviously he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Is a known jerk. I’m sure some are motivated and sone just hate you. Not everyone wants to come to work and deal with an asshole who gets away with it because he’s too powerful due to his ability and status. Personally…it’s still man to man. The company performing well doesn’t mean you all get along with the bully at work.
Im sure it’s much deeper than basketball. Buses, flights, practice, months on the road in hotels together…the real games are very little of the time spent.
I wasn’t there to see anything but the games so I can hardly argue with the people who were.
Far as I know none of them say he wasn’t a dominant player. Thats the part that’s indisputable. The personal aspect and all…we can’t really speak to.
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NBA Legend
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
In the Jordan Rules they mentioned Jordan walking down a hallway and Stacey King was walking towards him carrying a box. Jordan says "I hope you got a jump shot in there".
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by tontoz
In the Jordan Rules they mentioned Jordan walking down a hallway and Stacey King was walking towards him carrying a box. Jordan says "I hope you got a jump shot in there".
King was a high pick that didn't do much
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Good college starter
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
I actually bumped into Cartwright years ago in SF and asked him who was tougher to guard between Kareem & Hakeem and he gave me this unexpected answer of "I didn't look at my opponents that way, my job was to go 100% with no fear against anyone". The way he tried to prop up himself like he was some superstar was funny to see.
It's no secret Cartwright didn't like MJ and vice versa. MJ would tell teammates to not pass him the ball, but many people felt Cartwright was the leader on that 1st 3 peat team, kinda in a Dad way.
Cartwright shot 41% in '92-'93, they shouldn't have ever passed to him.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by RogueBorg
Cartwright shot 41% in '92-'93, they shouldn't have ever passed to him.
pretty ugly for a guy that is shooting everything close to the basket especially
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NBA Legend
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
King was a high pick that didn't do much
He was a lazy underachiever. Horace Grant's younger brother Harvey warned about King after the Bulls drafted him, saying he wouldn't work hard.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by tontoz
He was a lazy underachiever. Horace Grant's younger brother Harvey warned about King after the Bulls drafted him, saying he wouldn't work hard.
did Harvey work hard? I remember him putting up some big stats on bad teams. From what I remember King wasn't even much in college until his last season
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It is what it is
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Bill Cartwright..."boo hoo hoo, he dragged us to 3 chips, boo hoo hoo..."
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It is what it is
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by RogueBorg
Cartwright shot 41% in '92-'93, they shouldn't have ever passed to him.
41% for a big is absolutely atrocious
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NBA Legend
Re: "Michael Jordan was not a good leader" - Bill Cartwright
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
did Harvey work hard? I remember him putting up some big stats on bad teams. From what I remember King wasn't even much in college until his last season
Harvey was a decent role player.
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