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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    6 straight 30+point triple-doubles, most in NBA history

    also 5 straight games with 35+ points

    and he's shooting lights out

    He's averaging like 38/10/11 on above 50%FG/60%TS post-ASB in 9 games

    You're FUMING
    You can't just praise him for having those stats when at the same time, his team just had more than five losses since the all-star week lmao.

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    You can't just praise him for having those stats when at the same time, his team just had more than five losses since the all-star week lmao.
    just about every player has positives and negatives. Posters tend to focus on one aspect or the other depending on how much they like the player. It's possible to make up for what Doncic lacks defensively but the Mavericks squandered resources so they struggle with it. The defense is the reason why they lose games, not Doncic's offense. It may not be as much fun for his teammates as less heliocentric systems but he's effective. Because they don't have elite man and help defenders to make up for it sometime in the first two rounds they will lose and we'll see the Clippers, Nuggets or whoever actively hunt him when the Mavs are on defense but it is still possible to build a champ team with him as the best player. His teammates just have to be professional enough to do their jobs at a high level while he plays terrible defense. But it is a challenge to find a group of guys that get that done on a championship level.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Nobody wants to see this duo in the first round

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    Nobody wants to see this duo in the first round
    Phoenix would have a problem. Clippers (if healthy) have the right personnel to defend Doncic and torch him on the other end. Denver should also win. Thunder and OKC are a little unknown but no one is scared of them because their defense is awful. Doncic can get his and still lose.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Phoenix would have a problem. Clippers (if healthy) have the right personnel to defend Doncic and torch him on the other end. Denver should also win. Thunder and OKC are a little unknown but no one is scared of them because their defense is awful. Doncic can get his and still lose.
    Doncic has repeatedly torched Kawhi and PG13 … while healthy

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    You can't just praise him for having those stats when at the same time, his team just had more than five losses since the all-star week lmao.
    He's a Kobe stan. He fully endorses shot jacking.

    That game yesterday...Luka goes to the bench after trying to play 1 vs 5 for most of the quarter and what do you know? The team has no rhythm and Kyrie starts trying to get his numbers. Just looked like bad basketball. I don't care about his stats. **** him. Can't retire soon enough imo...

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteKyrie View Post
    Doncic has repeatedly torched Kawhi and PG13 … while healthy
    Last time they played the Clippers won and Doncic was 9 of 25. Before that the Clippers won and Doncic was 12 of 27. Doncic did dominate the first meeting of the season (44 points on 17 of 21) but that's just one out of three meetings. The Clippers have the personnel to defend Doncic on paper and the results so far this season say that they can definitely beat Dallas.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Last time they played the Clippers won and Doncic was 9 of 25. Before that the Clippers won and Doncic was 12 of 27. Doncic did dominate the first meeting of the season (44 points on 17 of 21) but that's just one out of three meetings. The Clippers have the personnel to defend Doncic on paper and the results so far this season say that they can definitely beat Dallas.
    so the 17 for 21 for 44 doesn’t count? Of course those two guys are long and fairly good defenders so they would give problems. But you can’t discount it. That’s a monumental game.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    He's a Kobe stan. He fully endorses shot jacking.

    That game yesterday...Luka goes to the bench after trying to play 1 vs 5 for most of the quarter and what do you know? The team has no rhythm and Kyrie starts trying to get his numbers. Just looked like bad basketball. I don't care about his stats. **** him. Can't retire soon enough imo...
    again coming from The Bum stan

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteKyrie View Post
    so the 17 for 21 for 44 doesn’t count? Of course those two guys are long and fairly good defenders so they would give problems. But you can’t discount it. That’s a monumental game.
    How was it discounted? You don't sound literate.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    just about every player has positives and negatives. Posters tend to focus on one aspect or the other depending on how much they like the player. It's possible to make up for what Doncic lacks defensively but the Mavericks squandered resources so they struggle with it. The defense is the reason why they lose games, not Doncic's offense. It may not be as much fun for his teammates as less heliocentric systems but he's effective. Because they don't have elite man and help defenders to make up for it sometime in the first two rounds they will lose and we'll see the Clippers, Nuggets or whoever actively hunt him when the Mavs are on defense but it is still possible to build a champ team with him as the best player. His teammates just have to be professional enough to do their jobs at a high level while he plays terrible defense. But it is a challenge to find a group of guys that get that done on a championship level.
    I know luka is a big performer lol. And it's not entirely his fault that his team lost some defensive pieces that would have made them closer to becoming title contenders. It's more about that he praised luka for his stats and triple dubs when it's likely that he'd call lebron 'empty stats' if he's the one who's doing those instead rn.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by SATAN View Post
    He's a Kobe stan. He fully endorses shot jacking.

    That game yesterday...Luka goes to the bench after trying to play 1 vs 5 for most of the quarter and what do you know? The team has no rhythm and Kyrie starts trying to get his numbers. Just looked like bad basketball. I don't care about his stats. **** him. Can't retire soon enough imo...
    Well, whatever it is, it's apparent that the mavs aren't going to replicate the playoff success they had two years ago with this current setup. They need to get the others involved again first before that happens.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Phoenix would have a problem. Clippers (if healthy) have the right personnel to defend Doncic and torch him on the other end. Denver should also win. Thunder and OKC are a little unknown but no one is scared of them because their defense is awful. Doncic can get his and still lose.
    This is a team that's built for the playoffs, I don't think they can beat Denver or the Lakers but they'll make some noise

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    You can't just praise him for having those stats when at the same time, his team just had more than five losses since the all-star week lmao.
    Yes I can. He's had a positive +/- in 6 out of the 9 games. Ain't his fault the team falls apart w/o him. You can't really do any better than 37.4/10/11.1 on 64.8%TS, which is what he's averaged in this 9-game stretch.

    They lost by 2 to the Cavs, he was a +13.. took a miracle half-court shot for them to lose that game too

    They lost by 4 to Philly, he was a +9, obviously they had some "garbage time" buckets to cut it close at the end but at the same time his teammates were not getting any stops when it mattered

    It would be one thing if he played like trash and was losing them games on D, but he's producing way more than what he gives up on the other end. It's a team & a coaching problem and not a Luka one.

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    Default Re: Why are the Kyrie and Luka Doncic duo ain't working?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    This is a team that's built for the playoffs, I don't think they can beat Denver or the Lakers but they'll make some noise
    Their defense stinks and they completely revolve around one player. How are they built for the playoffs?

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