Just another reminder that LeBron has less triple doubles than Jokic

[Walk on Water]

It has to be said. I can’t emphasize this enough. People want to compare Lebron’s stats to players of the past or use his stats to say he’s better. But Jokic has played in like a million less games (exaggerating) than LeBron and had more triple doubles, while not even caring about stats or basketball for that matter.

Even Luca Doncic is at 28, 8 and 8 for his career. 34, 8 and 9 this year. That’s better than LeBron. So what you are not gonna do is use Lebrons stats but ignore the players that do more than him prime for prime, just cuz of inflation. You can’t have it both ways. Uh uh.

[Walk on Water]

Nobody ever defends this when I bring it up. Guess you can’t.

[Walk on Water]

You guys love to bring up Kobe or even Jordan to compare stats like rebounds and assists. But when it comes to Jokic, somehow it doesn't count or you pretend you didn't see it. Quit trying to control the narrative. You gotta debate fairly if you're gonna be a diehard. This isn't gonna go away.

Even Westbrook has more triple doubles than Lebron ever had. But Jokic is better in just about every facet. If you take Jokic's best 4 years, Lebron's numbers don't even hold a candle. Just saying. You can't use stats if you won't use it against players like Jokic.

You can't just play politics.

Some of you thinking Walk on Water sounds whiny. Yea... but at the same time, I am RIGHT.
Go ahead and try to place stats over Jordan or Kobe. You won't win in a Jokic debate.

[kawhileonard2]

It has to be said. I can’t emphasize this enough. People want to compare Lebron’s stats to players of the past or use his stats to say he’s better. But Jokic has played in like a million less games (exaggerating) than LeBron and had more triple doubles, while not even caring about stats or basketball for that matter.

Even Luca Doncic is at 28, 8 and 8 for his career. 34, 8 and 9 this year. That’s better than LeBron. So what you are not gonna do is use Lebrons stats but ignore the players that do more than him prime for prime, just cuz of inflation. You can’t have it both ways. Uh uh.

Good point

[Walk on Water]

Bump

[jstern]

Why are people ignoring Walk on Water's point. It's rare to see a Walk on Water thread get ignored, which usually only happens when Walk on Water has a point that nobody can refute. He has silenced the opposition. It's an interesting phenomenon.

[Baller234]

Great point. This is why you can't just lean on stats.

First it's efficiency... until you point to another player who had higher efficiency. Then it's TS%... until you point to another player with a higher TS%. The goal post is always moving.

What's sad is that Lebron's greatness speaks for itself. It shouldn't always have to come down to just stats. Once his stans start talking about triple doubles and efficiency ratings I already know it's going to be a dumb conversation.

In some ways I would rather have Jokic, but he still hasn't proven he's better than Lebron to me. I need to see more. I don't really care how many triple doubles he has.

[ImKobe]

Bran is gonna lose out statistically to Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, Wemby etc and the younger fans who don't care for Bran are going to say that he was indeed worse than them because of the numbers. Funny how time works, huh? Bran stans talked all that shit about Jordan and Kobe and now they're going to be in the same boat.

[1987_Lakers]

Bran is gonna lose out statistically to Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, Wemby etc and the younger fans who don't care for Bran are going to say that he was indeed worse than them because of the numbers. Funny how time works, huh? Bran stans talked all that shit about Jordan and Kobe and now they're going to be in the same boat.

Damn, another list of players who will eventually surpass Kobe. Ouch.

[ImKobe]

Damn, another list of players who will eventually surpass Kobe. Ouch.

No one cares bro, let it go. Give us some modern NBA takes. We're over the Kobe/Bran/MJ debates here. You're stuck in the past.

[1987_Lakers]

No one cares bro, let it go. Give us some modern NBA takes. We're over the Kobe/Bran/MJ debates here. You're stuck in the past.

Modern NBA takes like this?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ter-than-Jokic

[Axe]

Damn, another list of players who will eventually surpass Kobe. Ouch.

Modern NBA takes like this?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ter-than-Jokic

[LAL]

Been saying this for years. Guys like Jokic and Doncic pass all the skill tests but lebron severely lacks there even tough bron stans and media tried to push this "greatest all around player ever" title because of his stats, it sure wasn't the eye test. Now his stats look inferior compared to many skilled players, even peak James Harden scoring 36ppg 10asst, now stans are left defending his weaknesses, 3 rings in 2 decades and lesser stats than more skilled players who don't really visibly stat pad like lebron does.

[LAL]

Also

Imagine all the shit talking bron stans and the media would do if lebron stayed in cleveland and Jokic or Doncic did this out West



Still mind-blowing to this day

[ImKobe]

Also

Imagine all the shit talking bron stans and the media would do if lebron stayed in cleveland and Jokic or Doncic did this out West



Still mind-blowing to this day

That's the modern equivalent of Jokic, Doncic & Tatum teaming up lol. Could you imagine?