Top 8 Centers in the league currently

[Xiao Yao You]

it's not no metrics

[hold this L]

best defender in the league on the best defensive team in the league while also being one of the elite rebounders. More than half the game. I realize it's the part of the game that doesn't matter to most

Wolves dRTG

with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos...mmonGames=true


Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.

[kawhileonard2]

In order:

1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Sengun
4. Porzingis
5. Sabonis
6. Holmgren
7. Adebayo
8. Davis

Jokic and Embiid are 1 and 2.

[Axe]

Stfu, jordansbulls. You total dickwad.

[Manny98]

Wolves dRTG

with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos...mmonGames=true


Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.

[warriorfan]

Wolves dRTG

with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos...mmonGames=true


Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.

[beasted]

Defensive rating NBA 103.2 (1st)

Defensive win shares 2023-24 NBA 1.1 (2nd)

while anchoring the best D in the league

I recognize you're the Colin Robinson energy vampire of ISH. Not taking the bait anymore.

[RRR3]

Wolves dRTG

with Rudy on the floor: 108.92
with Rudy off the floor: 105.39
https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos...mmonGames=true


Can't really be the best defender when your team plays better defensively without you.

Poor Xiao

[3ba11]

In order:

1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Sengun
4. Porzingis
5. Sabonis
6. Holmgren
7. Adebayo
8. Davis

Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..

Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY

[RRR3]

Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..

Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY

MJ would be Marcus Smart today.

[ShawkFactory]

Poor Xiao

Of course there are extenuating circumstances with the way the lineups are structured. There is no way they’re truly better off defensively without him.

But you do love to see it

[Xiao Yao You]

Of course there are extenuating circumstances with the way the lineups are structured. There is no way they’re truly better off defensively without him.

But you do love to see it

They stagger the lineups so he's with Conley and Ant is with Towns. Also a smaller sample size of minutes he's not on the floor than off but don't try to make sense of it. The trolls have a tough enough time.

[ShawkFactory]

Holy crap that's super-weak - most of those guys would be SF or PF in previous eras.. what a spaced-out, hands-off, beginner format of shrimps..

Jordan would literally average 50... not 40... FIFTY.. He used to dunk on Alonzo but now he gets to dunk on skinny shrimp Holmgren?... wow... no hand-checking and no rim protection?... FIFTY

Which guys would be SF or PF in previous eras? The physicality aspect is valid, but players are not smaller today. They’re actually bigger.

Sabonis is the exact same size as Mourning. Adebayo is an inch shorter but almost 20 pounds heavier.

Jokic and Embiid are considerably heavier than any great big in previous eras outside of Shaq.

Sengun is the same size as Patrick Ewing.

Etc.

[Xiao Yao You]

Which guys would be SF or PF in previous eras? The physicality aspect is valid, but players are not smaller today. They’re actually bigger.

Sabonis is the exact same size as Mourning. Adebayo is an inch shorter but almost 20 pounds heavier.

Jokic and Embiid are considerably heavier than any great big in previous eras outside of Shaq.

Sengun is the same size as Patrick Ewing.

Etc.

Sabonis has dino arms while Mourning had elite length. Sabonis would be a 4 but I could certainly see him as a 3 with his skill. Bam similar.