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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
NBA fans: "The league is soft! It's not like the 80's when men were men"
also NBA fans: "Waaaah! Did you see what that bad black man did on the court. Why aren't they pressing charges???!!!!" (dials 911).
Lol what?
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Lol what?
I'm illustrating the contradiction of the average fan who simultaneously tries to claim:
a) the NBA is 'soft', and we don't see the same kind of physicality on the court like we did in the 1980's
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b) getting very agitated at 'enforcer' types like Brooks in today's NBA; being disturbed by the physicality and upset at those players.
You can't have it both ways. Laimbeer was doing a lot worse than nut shots, he was trying to injure people.
As someone pointed out in a prior thread, the reason the League is "soft" is because that's how today's NBA fans actually want it, whether they realize it or not.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
I'm illustrating the contradiction of the average fan who simultaneously tries to claim:
a) the NBA is 'soft', and we don't see the same kind of physicality on the court like we did in the 1980's
AND
b) getting very agitated at 'enforcer' types like Brooks in today's NBA; being disturbed by the physicality and upset at those players.
You can't have it both ways. Laimbeer was doing a lot worse than nut shots, he was trying to injure people.
As someone pointed out in a prior thread, the reason the League is "soft" is because that's how today's NBA fans actually want it, whether they realize it or not.
I don't think people are talking about nut shots or race with these types of sentiments.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
I'm illustrating the contradiction of the average fan who simultaneously tries to claim:
a) the NBA is 'soft', and we don't see the same kind of physicality on the court like we did in the 1980's
AND
b) getting very agitated at 'enforcer' types like Brooks in today's NBA; being disturbed by the physicality and upset at those players.
You can't have it both ways. Laimbeer was doing a lot worse than nut shots, he was trying to injure people.
As someone pointed out in a prior thread, the reason the League is "soft" is because that's how today's NBA fans actually want it, whether they realize it or not.
There is nothing respectable about surprise nut shots. I don't particularly like a game coming down to physical play but there is a big difference between two bigs elbowing in the chest battling for position and this guy surprise slapping a man in the balls. This kind of cheap shot is not a tough guy move, it's a punk move. "I can't guard you so I'm going to jeopardize your ability to make children" is not respected and should not be.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Man, looking at the video clip, Brooks didn't even ask what the capital of Thailand was before the nut shot.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
you're not enforcing anything on someone's nuts. Like I said, dude like
Edit: lol replacing it with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnplGcAaFNg the low key pelvic thrust check
needs to just mash Dillon out. He has no idea what it's really like. That's an enforcer btw.
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Last edited by ILLsmak; 10-12-2023 at 10:29 PM.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
If he keeps doing it he should be suspended every time.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
There is nothing respectable about surprise nut shots. I don't particularly like a game coming down to physical play but there is a big difference between two bigs elbowing in the chest battling for position and this guy surprise slapping a man in the balls. This kind of cheap shot is not a tough guy move, it's a punk move. "I can't guard you so I'm going to jeopardize your ability to make children" is not respected and should not be.
Its about the over-reaction. Doesn't matter about the particulars which will always differ when comparing incidents. People today cringe at physciality, scream assault ; while wanting to toughness posture and claim basketball players were "men" back in the day. You cant have it both ways. A non-trivial portion of NBA fans are intimidated by someone like LeBron James. I can only imagine how they would react to Rick Mahorn in 2023, knocking players to the ground.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
Its about the over-reaction. Doesn't matter about the particulars which will always differ when comparing incidents. People today cringe at physciality, scream assault ; while wanting to toughness posture and claim basketball players were "men" back in the day. You cant have it both ways. A non-trivial portion of NBA fans are intimidated by someone like LeBron James. I can only imagine how they would react to Rick Mahorn in 2023, knocking players to the ground.
Do you not see the difference between Mahorn's hits and this guy hitting dudes in the nuts? That's the no-go zone. And that's not being tough that's being dirty. Rick Mahorn got into real fightzs out there. I actually don't like the league being like that because you don't want scrubs fighting stars to take stars out of games. But you could never say that Mahorn was just a cheapshotting punk, he was legit fighting guys. This cheap shot to the nuts crap we see from guys like Brooks and Allen isn't real fighting it's just being a dirtbag. He gets no respect and deserves no defense.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
Its about the over-reaction. Doesn't matter about the particulars which will always differ when comparing incidents. People today cringe at physciality, scream assault ; while wanting to toughness posture and claim basketball players were "men" back in the day. You cant have it both ways. A non-trivial portion of NBA fans are intimidated by someone like LeBron James. I can only imagine how they would react to Rick Mahorn in 2023, knocking players to the ground.
At nut shots..
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
Do you not see the difference between Mahorn's hits and this guy hitting dudes in the nuts? That's the no-go zone. And that's not being tough that's being dirty. Rick Mahorn got into real fightzs out there. I actually don't like the league being like that because you don't want scrubs fighting stars to take stars out of games. But you could never say that Mahorn was just a cheapshotting punk, he was legit fighting guys. This cheap shot to the nuts crap we see from guys like Brooks and Allen isn't real fighting it's just being a dirtbag. He gets no respect and deserves no defense.
I am not commenting on this particular incident. I'm talking about people today being indignant about defender/enforcers like Brooks and Draymond Green, in general.
Look, Laimbeer wasn't always clean with his defense. He stepped under defenders to break their ankle when they came down. Even Larry Bird called him out for that. Mahorn was dirty as well. Look at him 3:37 elbowing Larry Bird in the face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9U3fIor0Nc
I guarantee you that happened today; most of you would be on here calling him to be suspended. "That doesn't belong in basketball!!!". You would cry bloody murder if that didn't result in him headed back to the locker room.
Back then, people saw it and accepted it as part of the game.
Draymond doesn't pull half the sh*t Laimbeer and Mahorn did; but the outrage today to his tough play is far more palpable. Because we live in an Internet era where men can pretend to be tough online but in real life, shrink from physical contact. It creates hypocritical posturing, a split personality. That's why we see people cheering on the "good ol' days" of the 80's physical era but IRL reacting emotionally, hysterically in some times out of fear to the real thing when we see it in basketball today.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
For starter you are making a false equivalency. I don't think anyone is considering intentionally trying to injure people as the "toughness" you discuss.
Second, you're talking about 2 different groups of people. The ones yearning for the good ole days of the 80s are the ones who grew up watching basketball then. They usually aren't the ones screaming outrage about dirty plays now so I'm not seeing where the hypocritical aspect is coming from.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
I am not commenting on this particular incident. I'm talking about people today being indignant about defender/enforcers like Brooks and Draymond Green, in general.
Look, Laimbeer wasn't always clean with his defense. He stepped under defenders to break their ankle when they came down. Even Larry Bird called him out for that. Mahorn was dirty as well. Look at him 3:37 elbowing Larry Bird in the face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9U3fIor0Nc
I guarantee you that happened today; most of you would be on here calling him to be suspended. "That doesn't belong in basketball!!!". You would cry bloody murder if that didn't result in him headed back to the locker room.
Back then, people saw it and accepted it as part of the game.
Draymond doesn't pull half the sh*t Laimbeer and Mahorn did; but the outrage today to his tough play is far more palpable. Because we live in an Internet era where men can pretend to be tough online but in real life, shrink from physical contact. It creates hypocritical posturing, a split personality. That's why we see people cheering on the "good ol' days" of the 80's physical era but IRL reacting emotionally, hysterically in some times out of fear to the real thing when we see it in basketball today.
You are an idiot.
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Re: Dillon Brooks Ejected in His Rockets Debut
Originally Posted by bdonovan
I am not commenting on this particular incident. I'm talking about people today being indignant about defender/enforcers like Brooks and Draymond Green, in general.
Look, Laimbeer wasn't always clean with his defense. He stepped under defenders to break their ankle when they came down. Even Larry Bird called him out for that. Mahorn was dirty as well. Look at him 3:37 elbowing Larry Bird in the face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9U3fIor0Nc
I guarantee you that happened today; most of you would be on here calling him to be suspended. "That doesn't belong in basketball!!!". You would cry bloody murder if that didn't result in him headed back to the locker room.
Back then, people saw it and accepted it as part of the game.
Draymond doesn't pull half the sh*t Laimbeer and Mahorn did; but the outrage today to his tough play is far more palpable. Because we live in an Internet era where men can pretend to be tough online but in real life, shrink from physical contact. It creates hypocritical posturing, a split personality. That's why we see people cheering on the "good ol' days" of the 80's physical era but IRL reacting emotionally, hysterically in some times out of fear to the real thing when we see it in basketball today.
Marquess of Queensberry rules, bro. The sack is off limits.
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