1993 asg

[Wardell Curry]

They play harder in summer workout games and practice than the all star game. It isn’t injury. It’s not giving a ****.

Ok but what's the reason? What changed?

[Xiao Yao You]

Speaking of all-star games, arvydas sabonis also played in one of them bt.

a cumbersome big that didn't score a ton

[Full Court]

Ok but what's the reason? What changed?

I think a big part of it is getting rid of the East v West format and doing this pick-up-game style. Nobody actually cares who wins, so neither do the players.

[GimmeThat]

I think a big part of it is getting rid of the East v West format and doing this pick-up-game style. Nobody actually cares who wins, so neither do the players.

or you can say it's skills challenge in a game format

[bison]

Ok but what's the reason? What changed?

I think it’s a generational thing. Maybe todays young players see the concept of all star as an antiquated novelty that’s more ceremonial in nature than competitive. In other words, todays players are too ‘cool’ for the All Star game and don’t want to seem like they care too much about it for fear of being perceived as corny.

[Phoenix]

I echo Indian Guys sentiments....get rid of the game. There is pretty much no value in being named an all-star if it amounts to fans watching a lay-up line and 3 point spamfest( especially when they can actually watch an official 3point shootout the night before). Scrap the dunk contest too.

[Phoenix]

I think a big part of it is getting rid of the East v West format and doing this pick-up-game style. Nobody actually cares who wins, so neither do the players.

Also that. There was some pride in the east vs West format. I dont know why they even separate the two conferences for voting anymore when the two captains get to pick whoever they want.

[mr4speed]

Also that. There was some pride in the east vs West format. I dont know why they even separate the two conferences for voting anymore when the two captains get to pick whoever they want.

I do think the East vs West would bring back the rivalry. These guys are never going to compete hard if they are all friends and vacation with one another. The old NBA had teams and players that loved to beat each other. If money is the prime factor, lets put some teeth into the prize money = every member of the winning team walks away with $250,000 and every member of the losing team gets $2,500. The taunting and trash talking should also be fully allowed.

[Lebron23]

you can really tell whose headed for a divorce here

Sbw19 already got divorced 5x. Her husband leave her.

[sdot_thadon]

Just like with the dunk contest, if they want some real competition put a real reward with it. These guys make crazy money now so the incentive has to be substantial to get their attention. The game you showed those fellas made alot less money even when adjusting for Inflation so they had motivations to compete. And even then they didn't really compete as hard as we make it out to be lol. Instead of getting Kia or whomever to step in and endorse the award, hand out an actual endorsement to the mvp, the dunk contest winner etc. Reward them with guaranteed commercial spots for their products or something to that extent.

[Phoenix]

I do think the East vs West would bring back the rivalry. These guys are never going to compete hard if they are all friends and vacation with one another. The old NBA had teams and players that loved to beat each other. If money is the prime factor, lets put some teeth into the prize money = every member of the winning team walks away with $250,000 and every member of the losing team gets $2,500. The taunting and trash talking should also be fully allowed.

That money isn't anything though, for all-star level guys who are earning 40 million and up. That's probably like 2 days of partying in Vegas( or a night in a Houston strip club for Harden). We've just reached a point where the spirit of competition has faded, and I'm not sure throwing more money at the problem fixes it. There's an inherent issue with the mindset of current players.

[Axe]

or you can say it's skills challenge in a game format

Regardless, he'd still whine that there's little to no defenses implemented in today's league. What a dumbass gingie.

[Kblaze8855]

The game you showed those fellas made alot less money even when adjusting for Inflation so they had motivations to compete.

You think people like Jordan, Karl Malone, and Ewing play somewhat real in games that don’t count for the money?

Some people are just built to compete. People like Jordan or Westbrook or Kobe. People like Iverson, Bird, and Giannis. If everybody is chilling, of course, they drop it down a level, but the natural instinct is to play hard. And you always take your cue from the leaders. Larry Bird wasn’t about silly shit. Jordan was a competitor. They would feel like idiots being in games like they play now.

A lot of todays stars just aren’t personally motivated like that. It’s all a big joke like with Steph literally lay down and let Giannis dunk over him. It’s just for a laugh. They aren’t even there to play ball.

A lot of the old guys didn’t need the money, but were there to show they were the best even among the best players. Kareem wrote about being offended. He didn’t get the All-Star MVP one year. They used to care about the chance to play on the level playing field, where nobody can say well you have a better team.

It just doesn’t matter to these guys. And I don’t think it’s the money. Michael Jordan didn’t need anyone’s money by the late 90s. He was richer than some owners by then. He just wanted to play basketball.

[GimmeThat]

Regardless, he'd still whine that there's little to no defenses implemented in today's league. What a dumbass gingie.

if they really wanted to make it interesting, they could make the ball heavier or bigger, and make teams harder to score in the all star game without nessecarily creating injuries. but then, who wants to watch that.

[GimmeThat]

A lot of todays stars just aren’t personally motivated like that. It’s all a big joke like with Steph literally lay down and let Giannis dunk over him. It’s just for a laugh. They aren’t even there to play ball.

you sound like the guy consistently on the losing side of an OT ball game. I heard they had quite a few of them last year.