"You're an expensive backpack for 30."

[tpols]

I think it’s more that it made Dray sensitive/self conscious to thinking thats how people see it. I personally dont think the accusation is accurate.

In reality, I mean come on, in his prime he’s an elite defender, good high post passer, and at least serviceable enough as a shooter to keep the defender honest. He definitely was a net positive to their success, he wasnt carried.

Unless Poole was implying those days are over and now Green is washed, and maybe thats what he got sensitive about.

Dray was a net positive to their success but its pretty apparent his passing was built off the GOAT shooting backcourt and a lot of his antics wouldn't fly on shitty teams. Screaming at refs at the top of his lungs, assaulting people, acting like a maniac would have him blackballed or on the bench if he was drafted to the magic or whatever. And he wouldn't have the same playmaking opportunity playing next to guards that like to dominate the ball and play no off ball offense nor have an accompanying off ball shooting skillset.

[FultzNationRISE]

Dray was a net positive to their success but its pretty apparent his passing was built off the GOAT shooting backcourt and a lot of his antics wouldn't fly on shitty teams. Screaming at refs at the top of his lungs, assaulting people, acting like a maniac would have him blackballed or on the bench if he was drafted to the magic or whatever. And he wouldn't have the same playmaking opportunity playing next to guards that like to dominate the ball and play no off ball offense nor have an accompanying off ball shooting skillset.

Fair, and maybe thats just who he is, altho if you want to be generous you could argue maybe he saw that as what the Warriors needed him to bring, to balance out the laid back splash brothers. In another situation maybe he moderates his persona a bit.

[WhiteKyrie]

Draymond Green absolutely brings value to the Golden State Warriors team and franchise.

Even though he’s been on a steep decline for the past several years.

With that said, it is also true, he is 100% most valuable specifically in that system, specifically because of Steph Curry with a side helping of for a time: Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, and even Jordan Poole, being such a dynamic offensive players.

Draymond Green without the security blanket of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, was visible to us for basically an entire season. He is not a perennial all star or franchise caliber player. He is a really good role-player.

[WhiteKyrie]

Dray was a net positive to their success but its pretty apparent his passing was built off the GOAT shooting backcourt and a lot of his antics wouldn't fly on shitty teams. Screaming at refs at the top of his lungs, assaulting people, acting like a maniac would have him blackballed or on the bench if he was drafted to the magic or whatever. And he wouldn't have the same playmaking opportunity playing next to guards that like to dominate the ball and play no off ball offense nor have an accompanying off ball shooting skillset.

Bingo. Also, don’t forget the total illegal moving screens that entire team is allowed to get away with in order to free up Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson so readily

[SouBeachTalents]

Draymond Green absolutely brings value to the Golden State Warriors team and franchise.

Even though he’s been on a steep decline for the past several years.

With that said, it is also true, he is 100% most valuable specifically in that system, specifically because of Steph Curry with a side helping of for a time: Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, and even Jordan Poole, being such a dynamic offensive players.

Draymond Green without the security blanket of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, was visible to us for basically an entire season. He is not a perennial all star or franchise caliber player. He is a really good role-player.

Franchise player, obviously not, but in his prime, like 2015-18, he was an all-star caliber player, and 2016 he was legitimately All-NBA caliber and Golden State's best player in the Finals. I agree he absolutely benefits by being on Golden State with Curry & Klay, but he was better than mere role player in his prime. Now? That's accurate to say.

[tpols]

Bingo. Also, don’t forget the total illegal moving screens that entire team is allowed to get away with in order to free up Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson so readily

Illegal screens are like holding in football. They happen on every single play in every single game. Literally everybody's is moving when they set a screen. If they were to stand still for 2 seconds and do it, defenders would just avoid them. The game is constant motion, to act like screens are any different is absurd. Same way you watch offensive and defensive lines go at each other every play cuffing each other up by the collar. Happens every single play. It's a weak excuse and a way for refs to control the game.

[warriorfan]

Franchise player, obviously not, but in his prime, like 2015-18, he was an all-star caliber player, and 2016 he was legitimately All-NBA caliber and Golden State's best player in the Finals. I agree he absolutely benefits by being on Golden State with Curry & Klay, but he was better than mere role player in his prime. Now? That's accurate to say.

Clown post alert

[SATAN]

Sounds like bullshit tbh. Not that anyone cares about the truth these days.

[WhiteKyrie]

Franchise player, obviously not, but in his prime, like 2015-18, he was an all-star caliber player, and 2016 he was legitimately All-NBA caliber and Golden State's best player in the Finals. I agree he absolutely benefits by being on Golden State with Curry & Klay, but he was better than mere role player in his prime. Now? That's accurate to say.

He was a very good role player, I said that. His 3 perennial all star appearances came at the four year peak of the Warriors dominance 15 - 18. So, thanks Curry, KD and Klay.