Is it true that Lebron never scored on last possession of 1-poss game in 10 Finals??

[3ba11]

[Full Court]

Don't know if it's true or not, but it sure wouldn't surprise me. I mean, the name "LeShrivel" didn't come out of nowhere.

[3ba11]

Don't know if it's true or not, but it sure wouldn't surprise me. I mean, the name "LeShrivel" didn't come out of nowhere.

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In addition to the thread title, I also heard that Jordan doubled Lebron's ring or MVP frequency, while 97' and 98' Jordan (old Jordan) doubled Lebron's career 4th quarter scoring in the Finals (10 to 5 ppg) with much better efficiency.

The media claims that other teams simply "had better teams" and they excuse Lebron for having 1 sixty-win season from 2011-2017 (7 super-teams), while opponents flirted with 70 wins (Kawhi, Curry) without super-teams..

Ultimately, it's confirmed that Lebron is inferior to MJ or Curry because they yielded perennial Finals favorites and 70 wins, while Lebron barely wins 50 games with super-teams and has perennial underdogs.

[Spurs m8]

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In addition to the thread title, I also heard that Jordan doubled Lebron's ring or MVP frequency, while 97' and 98' Jordan (old Jordan) doubled Lebron's career 4th quarter scoring in the Finals (10 to 5 ppg) with much better efficiency.

The media claims that other teams simply "had better teams" and they excuse Lebron for having 1 sixty-win season from 2011-2017 (7 super-teams), while opponents flirted with 70 wins (Kawhi, Curry) without super-teams..

Ultimately, it's confirmed that Lebron is inferior to MJ or Curry because they yielded perennial Finals favorites and 70 wins, while Lebron barely wins 50 games with super-teams and has perennial underdogs.

Wow

Lol

[theman93]

Goodness gracious lol

[Full Court]

This is actual data from bballref - see stats in the bottom right:







In addition to the thread title, I also heard that Jordan doubled Lebron's ring or MVP frequency, while 97' and 98' Jordan (old Jordan) doubled Lebron's career 4th quarter scoring in the Finals (10 to 5 ppg) with much better efficiency.

The media claims that other teams simply "had better teams" and they excuse Lebron for having 1 sixty-win season from 2011-2017 (7 super-teams), while opponents flirted with 70 wins (Kawhi, Curry) without super-teams..

Ultimately, it's confirmed that Lebron is inferior to MJ or Curry because they yielded perennial Finals favorites and 70 wins, while Lebron barely wins 50 games with super-teams and has perennial underdogs.

Wow. I currently have LeShrivel ranked in the top ten, but man......it's pretty borderline with as big of a choker as he is.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Yes, I imagine most would prefer Jordan to take the last shot. He is the GOAT scorer, and a better catch-and-shoot threat.

Now, on to the lies:

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In addition to the thread title, I also heard that Jordan doubled Lebron's ring or MVP frequency, while 97' and 98' Jordan (old Jordan) doubled Lebron's career 4th quarter scoring in the Finals (10 to 5 ppg) with much better efficiency.

Doesn’t sound like the most reliable birdie, or perhaps you just heard wrong:

Jordan, ‘97-‘98 finals:

9.8 ppg in 4th quarters, on 44% shooting

LeBron in his finals career:

7.2 ppg in 4th quarters on 47% shooting


“Doubled” on “better efficiency”, eh?

The media claims that other teams simply "had better teams" and they excuse Lebron for having 1 sixty-win season from 2011-2017 (7 super-teams),

Those same teams were 8-3 against higher-win teams in the playoffs.

Perhaps that would indicate their regular season wins weren’t that revelatory. What do you think?

while opponents flirted with 70 wins (Kawhi, Curry)

Kawhi led a team to 67 and 61 wins as the first option. The Spurs were 14-4 when he was off the court.


LeBron led the ‘09 and ‘10 Cavs to 66 and 61 wins. The Cavs were 2-5 when he was off the court.

He also led the ‘13 Heat to a 66-16 record. “Too stacked”, you argue? James was 7-1 with Wade on the bench, 5-0 when Bosh sat and he played.

Ultimately, it's confirmed that Lebron is inferior to MJ or Curry

Both Jordan and LeBron would likely win an ungodly amount of titles with those same rosters and additional opportunities (keeping in mind that LeBron was #1-on-a-championship-team calibre from roughly 04-05 to 20-21). How much exactly can be quibbled over, but it would be more than four. Curry is great, but he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as either of them.

[warriorfan]

Tbh after hearing that stat and doing a mental reference of eye test it’s not very surprising at all.

[1987_Lakers]

I said it in another thread, only a matter of time before Peja puts 3ball back to sleep. He will not respond to his post. He will completely ignore it, and pretend like he didn't just get caught lying, for the 100th time.

[Axe]

Yes, I imagine most would prefer Jordan to take the last shot. He is the GOAT scorer, and a better catch-and-shoot threat.

Now, on to the lies:




Doesn’t sound like the most reliable birdie, or perhaps you just heard wrong:

Jordan, ‘97-‘98 finals:

9.8 ppg in 4th quarters, on 44% shooting

LeBron in his finals career:

7.2 ppg in 4th quarters on 47% shooting


“Doubled” on “better efficiency”, eh?



Those same teams were 8-3 against higher-win teams in the playoffs.

Perhaps that would indicate their regular season wins weren’t that revelatory. What do you think?




Kawhi led a team to 67 and 61 wins as the first option. The Spurs were 14-4 when he was off the court.


LeBron led the ‘09 and ‘10 Cavs to 66 and 61 wins. The Cavs were 2-5 when he was off the court.

He also led the ‘13 Heat to a 66-16 record. “Too stacked”, you argue? James was 7-1 with Wade on the bench, 5-0 when Bosh sat and he played.



Both Jordan and LeBron would likely win an ungodly amount of titles with those same rosters and additional opportunities (keeping in mind that LeBron was #1-on-a-championship-team calibre from roughly 04-05 to 20-21). How much exactly can be quibbled over, but it would be more than four. Curry is great, but he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as either of them.

/thread

[Full Court]

[ShawkFactory]

Yes, I imagine most would prefer Jordan to take the last shot. He is the GOAT scorer, and a better catch-and-shoot threat.

Now, on to the lies:




Doesn’t sound like the most reliable birdie, or perhaps you just heard wrong:

Jordan, ‘97-‘98 finals:

9.8 ppg in 4th quarters, on 44% shooting

LeBron in his finals career:

7.2 ppg in 4th quarters on 47% shooting


“Doubled” on “better efficiency”, eh?



Those same teams were 8-3 against higher-win teams in the playoffs.

Perhaps that would indicate their regular season wins weren’t that revelatory. What do you think?




Kawhi led a team to 67 and 61 wins as the first option. The Spurs were 14-4 when he was off the court.


LeBron led the ‘09 and ‘10 Cavs to 66 and 61 wins. The Cavs were 2-5 when he was off the court.

He also led the ‘13 Heat to a 66-16 record. “Too stacked”, you argue? James was 7-1 with Wade on the bench, 5-0 when Bosh sat and he played.



Both Jordan and LeBron would likely win an ungodly amount of titles with those same rosters and additional opportunities (keeping in mind that LeBron was #1-on-a-championship-team calibre from roughly 04-05 to 20-21). How much exactly can be quibbled over, but it would be more than four. Curry is great, but he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as either of them.

Damn.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yes, I imagine most would prefer Jordan to take the last shot. He is the GOAT scorer, and a better catch-and-shoot threat.

Now, on to the lies:




Doesn’t sound like the most reliable birdie, or perhaps you just heard wrong:

Jordan, ‘97-‘98 finals:

9.8 ppg in 4th quarters, on 44% shooting

LeBron in his finals career:

7.2 ppg in 4th quarters on 47% shooting


“Doubled” on “better efficiency”, eh?



Those same teams were 8-3 against higher-win teams in the playoffs.

Perhaps that would indicate their regular season wins weren’t that revelatory. What do you think?




Kawhi led a team to 67 and 61 wins as the first option. The Spurs were 14-4 when he was off the court.


LeBron led the ‘09 and ‘10 Cavs to 66 and 61 wins. The Cavs were 2-5 when he was off the court.

He also led the ‘13 Heat to a 66-16 record. “Too stacked”, you argue? James was 7-1 with Wade on the bench, 5-0 when Bosh sat and he played.



Both Jordan and LeBron would likely win an ungodly amount of titles with those same rosters and additional opportunities (keeping in mind that LeBron was #1-on-a-championship-team calibre from roughly 04-05 to 20-21). How much exactly can be quibbled over, but it would be more than four. Curry is great, but he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as either of them.

OP definitely read this too but scurried away like the rat he is

[tpols]

That's not surprising at all. The only time I remember lebron banging game winners was vs big underdogs in a very weak Eastern conference.

When the odds were even against the West and the pressure was on, he needed guys like Kyrie, Ray, and AD to totally bail him out.

[dazzer87]

10 finals and NOT even one…