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I usually hit open layups
Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
I honestly do not understand why this man doesn't get any credit.
I wouldn't take the likes of O. ROBERTSON, I. THOMAS, and C. PAUL over STOCKTON, not even at gunpoint.
STOCKTON can pass better than all 3 combined. STOCKTON can defend better than all 3 for sure!
STOCKTON was by far the better shooter!
Big-O was the Westbrick of the 60s.
Zeke was a combo-guard better offensively than Stockton. However, he was not a better playmaker than Stockton.
CP3 is the biggest b!tch I've seen put on a pair of kicks.
What say you?
Your thoughts...your thoughts...
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
I'm not so sure Stockton could defend & shoot like CP3, but they are on similar levels in those departments.
His prime/peak was a step below other all-time great PGs like Magic, Nash, CP3, & the Big O, but his longevity more than made up for it.
I always see him listed as a top 25-30 player ever.
I don't think he gets underrated.
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Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
It's funny because someone told me recently that Lebron/AD could've easily destroyed Stocton/Malone
The problem is that Stockton defeated Shaq, Duncan and Hakeem to make the 98' Finals - could AD really do that?
Shaq had 3 all-star teammates in 1998 (Kobe, Van Exel and Eddie Jones) plus Fox, Horry, and Fisher, while Duncan had Robinson and Popovich (56 wins).. Utah swept or gentlemen swept both teams.
So the 10-year organic chemistry meant a lot and every opponent from the 90's West was a long-standing, organic juggernaut like the Suns, Sonics, Blazers, Spurs or Jazz - there was a ton of parity and the team that came out of the 90's West was a battle-tested organic juggernaut that had everything come together for them that year - they were a freight train and that's what Jordan beat - he beat battle-tested, 10-year organic juggernauts that had everything fall just perfect for them that year.. These are the kinds of teams that maul Lebron (14' Spurs, 11' Mavs), so the Lebron/AD combination would stand no chance - they were a talent-based pairing and lack the organic experience and know-how to compete with the 90's West
Lebron's skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically)
Last edited by 3ba11; 05-23-2023 at 01:34 PM.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
I'm not so sure Stockton could defend & shoot like CP3, but they are on similar levels in those departments.
His prime/peak was a step below other all-time great PGs like Magic, Nash, CP3, & the Big O, but his longevity more than made up for it.
I always see him listed as a top 25-30 player ever.
I don't think he gets underrated.
He should be considered the best PG of all-time only behind Magic and Curry.
Not the Big Slow
Not the wannabe be shooting guard
and most definitely not that spineless coward CP3!
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Qing James Fan
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
What would the 90s Jazz be like with Stockton?
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NBA Legend
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by HoopologyPhD
What would the 90s Jazz be like with Stockton?
3 champions chips. If wearing Lebron Witnes shoe. It is a good shoe with good grips.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by HoopologyPhD
What would the 90s Jazz be like with Stockton?
Karl Malone & John Stockton would makes for a pretty good duo. They would defeats Michael Jordan in an NBA Finals. Stockton was a better Finals performers than Kobe.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by HoopologyPhD
What would the 90s Jazz be like with Stockton?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
As a peak playoff performer, I feel like Stockton is overrated. He was a poor shooter compared to the guys of today and made his living off feeding Karl Malone who was a true stud MVP talent. His longevity and long term intangibles are great, but if it comes down to a winning a playoff series I'd take a guy like kyrie or dame over him because they actually have the potential to go off in a way Stockton cant.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
He's not underrated at all. Our resident rankings expert John*random numbers* has him ranked #16 all-time.
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Good college starter
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
It might have something to do with the fact that he retired 20 years ago.
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I get superstar calls
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
He's not underrated at all. Our resident rankings expert John*random numbers* has him ranked #16 all-time.
16 for Stockton is overrated if anything.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Originally Posted by j3lademaster
16 for Stockton is overrated if anything.
Yes, I know. Woefully so....
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
he is overrated
Never won an NBA Championship
Not a top 25 player of all time
Only averaged 9 ppg in the 1998 NBA Finals.
John Stockton averaged 12.3 points, 8.8 assists and 3.3 rebounds in 12 games in the NBA Finals in his career.
he got the all time record in assists and steals because of longevity and durability.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Why is STOCKTON so underrated?
Ring Less and a terrible finals performer
Isiah Thomas averaged 22.6 points, 7.9 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 16 games in the NBA Finals in his career.
Chris Paul has averaged 21.8 points, 8.2 assists and 2.7 rebounds in 6 games in the NBA Finals in his career.
Oscar Robertson averaged 16.3 points, 8.7 assists and 4.2 rebounds in 11 games in the NBA Finals in his career.
Magic Johnson averaged 19.4 points, 11.7 assists and 7.9 rebounds in 50 games in the NBA Finals in his career.
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