Lakers are the #1 rated defensive team in the playoffs.

[Lebron23]

Lakers are the #1 rated defensive team in the playoffs.

Lakers rank on defense:
#1 in defensive rating (106.5)
#1 in opponent’s FG% (42.2%)
#1 in defensive rebounds per game (37.0)
#1 in blocks per game (7.1)

"Defense wins Championships"
"The one who controls the rebound controls the game"

[3ba11]

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PLAYOFFS

85-93' JORDAN....... 35/7/7
06-14' LEBRON....... 28/8/6

Lakers are the #1 rated defensive team in the playoffs.

Lakers rank on defense:
#1 in defensive rating (106.5)
#1 in opponent’s FG% (42.2%)
#1 in defensive rebounds per game (37.0)
#1 in blocks per game (7.1)

"Defense wins Championships"
"The one who controls the rebound controls the game"

Playoff defensive rating means little because everyone plays different teams and the pace or dynamic of each series will vary widely

So it means nothing.

Otoh, regular season DRTG is valid because everyone plays the same comp over a large sample size

And keep in mind that Lebron wasn't required to be a good defender for half his chips (no all-defense in his 30's), while also passing less than MJ for the other half of his chips - see the stats above - Lebron averaged less APG for the first 9 years of their respective playoff careers, which is 06-14' vs 85-93'.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Playoff defensive rating means little because everyone plays different teams and the pace or dynamic of each series will vary widely

So it means nothing.

Otoh, regular season DRTG is valid because everyone plays the same comp over a large sample size

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They've had the best DRTG since the trade deadline. This isn't random or flukey. You just haven't paid any attention. That's why you lazily picked the Nuggets who are mediocre defensively (mediocre defenses almost NEVER win the title)

[3ba11]

They've had the best DRTG since the trade deadline. This isn't random or flukey. You just haven't paid any attention. That's why you lazily picked the Nuggets who are mediocre defensively (mediocre defenses almost NEVER win the title)

Lakers won't be able to stop the Nuggets - this is a completely different level - they'll be ragdolling Lebron's team by Game 3 like it's 2014, 2017 or 2018 all over again.

Lebron and AD could only manage 20-25 against the pathetic Grizzlies or Warriors, so this will be less against the Nuggets' onslaught and they certainly can't match the 25-30 from Jokic/Murray.. Jokic/Murray is the best duo in the league.

Btw, it's funny how you think someone is GOAT when they're entirely carried on the defensive end and weren't required to be a good defender for half their chips (no all-defense for Lebron in his 30's)

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lakers won't be able to stop the Nuggets - this is a completely different level - they'll be ragdolling Lebron's team by Game 3 like it's 2014, 2017 or 2018 all over again.

Lebron and AD could only manage 20-25 against the pathetic Grizzlies or Warriors, so this will be less against the Nuggets' onslaught and they certainly can't match the 25-30 from Jokic/Murray.. Jokic/Murray is the best duo in the league.

Btw, it's funny how you think someone is GOAT when they're entirely carried on the defensive end and weren't required to be a good defender for half their chips (no all-defense for Lebron in his 30's)

He's playing at a higher level at age 38 than anybody else in history and just had a 30/9/9 game in a must win game 6 vs. the defending Champs, who you've been saying all year would beat LeBron because of superior brand. Outplayed Curry on both ends.


He cant keep getting away with this.

[8Ball]

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PLAYOFFS

85-93' JORDAN....... 35/7/7
06-14' LEBRON....... 28/8/6






Playoff defensive rating means little because everyone plays different teams and the pace or dynamic of each series will vary widely

So it means nothing.

Otoh, regular season DRTG is valid because everyone plays the same comp over a large sample size

And keep in mind that Lebron wasn't required to be a good defender for half his chips (no all-defense in his 30's), while also passing less than MJ for the other half of his chips - see the stats above - Lebron averaged less APG for the first 9 years of their respective playoff careers, which is 06-14' vs 85-93'.

Jordan year 20 ppgs in the playoffs: 0/0/0

Jordan Age 38 stats: 20/4/4 on 40% vs LeBron 30/8/7 on 50%

[8Ball]

Lakers are the #1 rated defensive team in the playoffs.

Lakers rank on defense:
#1 in defensive rating (106.5)
#1 in opponent’s FG% (42.2%)
#1 in defensive rebounds per game (37.0)
#1 in blocks per game (7.1)

"Defense wins Championships"
"The one who controls the rebound controls the game"

Who knew getting rid of Westbrick would change the team.

Addition by subtraction.

[3ba11]

Jordan year 20 ppgs in the playoffs: 0/0/0

Jordan Age 38 stats: 20/4/4 on 40% vs LeBron 30/8/7 on 50%

Lebron is getting carried to a title by only needing 23 ppg and having teammates to nearly match or lead him in scoring for every series.

That isn't goat-caliber so you guys are lying by saying that this chip is goat-caliber - this wouldn't even qualify as a chip if Jordan was only getting 23 ppg - he wouldn't consider it a chip and no one would think he's GOAT for winning a chip at 23 ppg - the goat standard is much higher than 23 ppg

[theman93]

AD is the best anchor of the modern generation (*when healthy).

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lebron is getting carried to a title by only needing 23 ppg and having teammates to nearly match or lead him in scoring for every series.

That isn't goat-caliber so you guys are lying by saying that this chip is goat-caliber - this wouldn't even qualify as a chip if Jordan was only getting 23 ppg - he wouldn't consider it a chip and no one would think he's GOAT because he already set the goat standard and it was much higher

It counted for for Bird, Magic, and Wilt


LeBron being the best 38 year old in history while leading a title team is a disgustingly large legacy boost that further separates him from everybody else. He's about to become a guy who has won multiple titles with 2 different franchises... undeniable GOAT.

[Bankaii]

AD is the best anchor of the modern generation (*when healthy).

Define modern. Because Dwight was definitely more impactful.

[3ba11]

It counted for for Bird, Magic, and Wilt

Not for Jordan

And that's what we're talking about - we're talking about whether Lebron is a fraud for GOAT or not

And he clearly is because 23 ppg isn't close to any of Jordan's titles

Jordan has 6 titles that are like Wade's 2006 chip - complete domination

So this chip is a complete joke compared to Jordan and it proves that Lebron wasn't capable of 6 dominant chips.. He needed teammates to carry him this year, while teammates led the scoring in 2020, 2011 and matched him in the 2016 run..

chips with different franchises

Anyone can go 1/4 with AD or 1/4 with Love or 1/4 with Wade (except the Allen miracle)

that's quite pathetic for a goat candidate and Lebron has the lowest championship frequency for a top 10 candidate or the worst Finals record.

20 years of longevity confirms that Lebron isn't capable of a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with any lineup, aka objectively inferior to MJ

[3ba11]

Define modern. Because Dwight was definitely more impactful.

Lakers were last on defense in 2019 and lottery but AD made them 1st and champions in 2020 (he also led the scoring)

Lebron is being carried by AD, yet you guys think he compares to a guy that won 6 chips in 2006 Wade fashion (complete domination)

during the 1st three-peat, the Bulls only had the #7 defense and worse defense than nearly every ECF and Finals opponent (91' Pistons, 91' Lakers, 92' Knicks, 92' Blazers, 93' Knicks)

[theman93]

Define modern. Because Dwight was definitely more impactful.

Dwight was only a rim protector. AD being able to block and alter shots at the rim while simultaneously having the ability to guard the perimeter in the hyper centric 3 point shooting era is something this league has never seen.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Not for Jordan

And that's what we're talking about - we're talking about whether Lebron is a fraud for GOAT or not

And he clearly is because 23 ppg isn't close to any of Jordan's titles

Jordan has 6 titles that are like Wade's 2006 chip - complete domination

So this chip is a complete joke compared to Jordan and it proves that Lebron wasn't capable of 6 dominant chips.. He needed teammates to carry him this year, while teammates led the scoring in 2020, 2011 and matched him in the 2016 run..






Anyone can go 1/4 with AD or 1/4 with Love or 1/4 with Wade (except the Allen miracle)

that's quite pathetic for a goat candidate and Lebron has the lowest championship frequency for a top 10 candidate or the worst Finals record.

20 years of longevity confirms that Lebron isn't capable of a dynasty, 3-peat or 6 chips with any lineup, aka objectively inferior to MJ

LeBron was already the GOAT before this season, but leading another title team at age 38 just adds an even bigger gap between him and everybody else.

Guy had about 5 titles stolen from him due to shit teammates, injuries, and Durant creating an unstoppable super team.


His ring value is about 10. Imagine taking all rings at face value and thinking you know the game lmao