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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
And since he values scoring so much, LeBron also led the Lakers in scoring in the series.
3ball. Explain yourself.
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Prime Steph at 35 with no top 75 player all time while Lebron had AD, also had Westbrook this year and Dwight and Melo last year and missed play in.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Prime Steph at 35 with no top 75 player all time while Lebron had AD, also had Westbrook this year and Dwight and Melo last year and missed play in.
Kawhi just lost in the first round with PG and peak Westbrook.
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Lebron's skillset needs too much help to win, so he's inferior to guys that didn't need as much help like Curry, Kobe or MJ.
Lebron needs teammates to nearly match or lead the scoring for entire playoff runs and most series, which isn't goat-caliber..
It's statistical fact that Lebron's skillset of abnormal ball-dominance for his size/position (point guard hold-time and assisted rate) imposes spot-up roles (reduces teammates' APG and increases their assisted rate), which doesn't allow teammate development, chemistry or strategic capacity/coaching, thereby needing more help to win.
This is all statistical fact.
So he's objectively inferior to other skillsets that needed less help to win
Lebron only needed 24.7 ppg to win this series or 25 ppg to win the 2007 ECF - that would be the worst series of Jordan's career and Jordan averaged 40-45 ppg against teams of that caliber (#6 SRS).
Everyone in history needed bevies of all-star teammates, while mj's goat ability to never lose once he got a single all-star (even a bricklayer like Pippen) allowed Pippen's "Iggy-caliber" to stick around and ride the winning spotlight to all-time status (most overrated player of all-time).
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Kawhi just lost in the first round with PG and peak Westbrook.
Thats better than not making the play in with the winniest organization in NBA history with 4 top 75 players all time.https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html (Lakers 2nd)
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Good college starter
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Kawhi just lost in the first round with PG and peak Westbrook.
Lebron's ball-dominance missed the play-in with Westbrook, while Kawhi's poor man's Jordan style (expert jumpshooter) fit with Westbrook and made the playoffs
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Good college starter
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by 3ba11
Lebron's ball-dominance missed the play-in with Westbrook, while Kawhi's poor man's Jordan style (expert jumpshooter) fit with Westbrook and made the playoffs
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Professor Objectivity
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
And since he values scoring so much, LeBron also led the Lakers in scoring in the series.
3ball. Explain yourself.
This puts LeBron further ahead of Jordan.
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by 8Ball
This puts LeBron further ahead of Jordan.
Lebron isn't even the best of his era.
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Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by kawhileonard2
Lebron isn't even the best of his era.
8Pauper's been waiting for 25 years for someone to pass up Jordan. That's why he's always having meltdowns and living in denial.
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NBA Superstar
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
A 38 year old injured LeBron*
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Bran Fam Member
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by Full Court
Lol. OP is such a low IQ basketball fan.
Lebron didn't beat anybody. He got bailed out by AD, Russell, and Lonnie Walker.
All LeShrivel did was score points when they didn't matter, sit around on defense, and be dead weight in general.
Bronie fluffers.....
I wouldn't say he got bailed out but he definitely wasn't the best player on his team in that series, in fact he was the 3rd best player in the series behind AD & Steph.
It's funny how Bran stans don't count 2017 & 2018 because Steph had Durant (who outplayed Lebron), but they don't apply that same logic here when AD carried Bran through this series.
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The Bearded Menace
Re: A 38 year old LeBron just beat prime Steph who 3ball says is a top 5 player ever
Originally Posted by 3ba11
Lebron's skillset needs too much help to win, so he's inferior to guys that didn't need as much help like Curry, Kobe or MJ.
Lebron needs teammates to nearly match or lead the scoring for entire playoff runs and most series, which isn't goat-caliber..
It's statistical fact that Lebron's skillset of abnormal ball-dominance for his size/position (point guard hold-time and assisted rate) imposes spot-up roles (reduces teammates' APG and increases their assisted rate), which doesn't allow teammate development, chemistry or strategic capacity/coaching, thereby needing more help to win.
This is all statistical fact.
So he's objectively inferior to other skillsets that needed less help to win
Lebron only needed 24.7 ppg to win this series or 25 ppg to win the 2007 ECF - that would be the worst series of Jordan's career and Jordan averaged 40-45 ppg against teams of that caliber (#6 SRS).
Everyone in history needed bevies of all-star teammates, while mj's goat ability to never lose once he got a single all-star (even a bricklayer like Pippen) allowed Pippen's "Iggy-caliber" to stick around and ride the winning spotlight to all-time status (most overrated player of all-time).
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