Hakeem Olajuwon vs. Kevin Durant

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm surprised by how many votes KD is getting.

for starters I just accidentally voted Durant






but any poll that isnt public is useless.


Could be completely troll or alt-infested.

[Im Still Ballin]

You're on ISH. You shouldn't be surprised by anything you read here.

Holy shit I just voted and broke a tie. Oh yeah, refer to above statement. Be surprised at nothing on this site.....

EDIT: and someone just voted after me to tie it up again

Truth.

for starters I just accidentally voted Durant






but any poll that isnt public is useless.


Could be completely troll or alt-infested.

Word. When I make a thread, it's public. It's no fun if you don't get to see what people voted for.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What psychopath used 13 alts to vote for KD?

We have a poster that names himself "AlternativeAcc," so...

[Real Men Wear Green]

It's not just trolling. You have legit basketball minds and people that would argue KD deserving to be ranked alongside Hakeem. Again, ESPN had him 12th like 2 years ago in their rankings.

Durant had the talent to be one of the five greatest ever... but not the resume.

[DMAVS41]

Durant had the talent to be one of the five greatest ever... but not the resume.

I don't think so as his help throughout his career has been more than good enough to allow him to achieve what you claim if he was actually good enough to warrant top 5 consideration. He basically played with an in prime deserving all-nba teammate every year of his prime. Him not having a good enough resume is on him...hell, his current resume isn't even that great and it was inflated to begin with by getting 2 free titles and finals mvp's he never would have gotten if not for stacking the deck.

His real resume as the best player / leader of a franchise is 1 finals appearance.

His actual impact is in the top 20 or so range to date for his career and that is where he should be ranked unless he does something more in the remainder of his career.

[FultzNationRISE]

Durant had the talent to be one of the five greatest ever… but not the resume.

No he didnt.

Being a tall jump shooter is not the be-all of basketball.

Not sure why people think it is.

[Im Still Ballin]

KD's disregard for proper strength and conditioning was his biggest downfall in my opinion. He could have grown strong and sturdy; he would've developed certain deficiencies in his game and become more well-rounded. He has a similar height, standing reach, and wingspan to Dwight but he hasn't the sturdy frame and bulk.

Some would say he didn't have the build to grow like Giannis and AD did, but I disagree. I'm not sure he really tried. Moses Malone was skinny as hell but he put in work to grow bigger and stronger.







Adding an extra 40-50 high-quality pounds to his frame would unlock so many things for him. But he's one of those guys who thinks weights slow you down and cause injuries.

[Phoenix]

I don't think so as his help throughout his career has been more than good enough to allow him to achieve what you claim if he was actually good enough to warrant top 5 consideration. He basically played with an in prime deserving all-nba teammate every year of his prime. Him not having a good enough resume is on him...hell, his current resume isn't even that great and it was inflated to begin with by getting 2 free titles and finals mvp's he never would have gotten if not for stacking the deck.

His real resume as the best player / leader of a franchise is 1 finals appearance.

His actual impact is in the top 20 or so range to date for his career and that is where he should be ranked unless he does something more in the remainder of his career.

I read on here once that remove the Warriors years and his career record isn't all that far removed from someone like Allen Iverson. Yeah Durant's the higher % scorer( in a perimeter-friendly era, I digress), but....

Finals appearances:
Durant 1, Iverson 1

MVPs
Durant 1, Iverson 1

All-star
Durant 13, Iverson 11

Scoring titles
Durant 4, Iverson 4

All-NBA
Durant 10, Iverson 7

Now for the comprehensively challenged, no I'm not saying Durant and Iverson are equal( though I do think A.I has started to become underrated because of the advanced stats *ma$terbation and how his career ended), but it's interesting to note the parallels in their accolades.

[Im Still Ballin]

Moses at 19: 215 pounds at 6'10"
AD at 19: 212 pounds at 6'10"
KD at 19:212 pounds at 6'9"

Moses at 24: 235 pounds at 6'10"
AD at 21: 240 pounds at 6'10"
KD at 21: 223 pounds at 6'9"

Moses at maximum weight: 255-260 pounds at 6'10"
AD at 23: 253 pounds at 6'10"
KD at 23: 231 pounds at 6'9"

AD with Lakers: probably 255-260+ pounds
KD at 26: 237 pounds at 6'9"

KD 2021 Olympics: 225 pounds

[DMAVS41]

I read on here once that remove the Warriors years and his career record isn't all that far removed from someone like Allen Iverson. Yeah Durant's the higher % scorer( in a perimeter-friendly era, I digress), but....

Finals appearances:
Durant 1, Iverson 1

MVPs
Durant 1, Iverson 1

All-star
Durant 13, Iverson 11

Scoring titles
Durant 4, Iverson 4

All-NBA
Durant 10, Iverson 7

Now for the comprehensively challenged, no I'm not saying Durant and Iverson are equal( though I do think A.I has started to become underrated because of the advanced stats *ma$terbation and how his career ended), but it's interesting to note the parallels in their accolades.

Yep, we talked about that a bit ago...

What is even worse for Durant, is that he played with significantly better teams than Iverson did in the comparison you did above....and yes, there were some better playoff runs...etc, but overall in terms of really accomplishing things as the leader...it isn't much of a difference at all.

Yet we have people, to this day, he could be top 5.

If you gave Allen Iverson the kind of help Durant got in his non-warriors career...you'd expect more than only 1 finals appearance...anyone with any amount of honesty and objectivity...would admit that.

[kawhileonard2]

Hakeem won for the franchise that drafted him and won multiple titles. Lebron didnt do that.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Durant stays getting disrespected... lol @ this thread.

[Nike D'Antoni]

Hakeem won for the franchise that drafted him and won multiple titles. Lebron didnt do that.

I think You meant to post in this thread http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...eBron-all-time

[Nike D'Antoni]

I think only people who haven’t seen Hakeem play would say, Durant.

[AlternativeAcc.]

We have a poster that names himself "AlternativeAcc," so...

I have 2 accounts dawg. Get out of here with this shit.