The all D teams come out today at 2. Seems they added a third team.

[post]

Interesting AD was completely omitted. I'm not saying AD should have won DPOY, but him and JJJ are very close when it comes to defensive advanced metrics. They are nearly equal in deflections, contested shots and defensive rating splits, while AD grabs twice as much rebounds and fouls less than JJJ. The obvious answer to many is that AD missed too many games to be considered first team defense.

Except for one thing: AD has played more minutes this past regular season than both JJJ and Alex Caruso. I believe there's two biases against AD: AD is considered a much higher tier level player than JJJ and so has to play up to higher expectations. Injuries count against you more when you are a superstar. And the second thing is the effect of social media. AD is slandered by social media fan bases relentlessly for being injured. So bad to the point where even sports show TV and radio hosts are calling him 'street clothes'. It's a kind of a mob mentality that I'm sure has had some effect on voting.

davis would've been a good pick

and is one reason among others a third team is a good idea

which i said last year but not many care what post says

[Real Men Wear Green]

Smart missed 20 games. Would be nice if he made it but that's important. If he and to an even greater extent Robert Williams (the most impactful defender on the team) has good health the Celtics world have cruised to the best record and they both would be all D.

Good to see White get some recognition.

[post]

looking at it lebron made it in 2013 and 2014

half the all defense team in 2013 was the same as 2014

3 others from 2013 made it again after 2014

so that's 80% that apparently the coaches were not completely fing up

the other two conley and gasol only made it once in their careers and that was in 2013

but then you can find examples like robert covington among others who only made it once in their careers and that was after 2013

in case anyone was wondering

[post]

oh and tyson chandler made it in 13 as a tie but never again

but he was injured in 14 and was getting older

and did make it multiple years before 13 so it wasn't a possible "gotcha" outlier or whatever

covington could've made it more than one year in the post coaches voting era

perhaps he's in some kind of dog house for no good reason

or easily could've been a 3rd team pick some years

[post]

conley and gasol probably did have career years defensively in 2013

it's not like the coaches were drunk when they made these picks

[Jasper]

giannis had more points then Bam , but he was not a center but a PF so did not make it.

[ImKobe]

The AD disrespect is insane. I don't wanna hear about games played when he played more minutes than the DPOY.

[tpols]

I really hope embiid realizes he doesn't have to flop and jeopardize his health to win. Maxey and Harden and Harris... he has the talent. Play it safe and pick your spots. You can win while still being dominant.

[1987_Lakers]

I really hope embiid realizes he doesn't have to flop and jeopardize his health to win. Maxey and Harden and Harris... he has the talent. Play it safe and pick your spots. You can win while still being dominant.

This isn't the game thread.

[bdonovan]

looking at it lebron made it in 2013 and 2014

half the all defense team in 2013 was the same as 2014

3 others from 2013 made it again after 2014

so that's 80% that apparently the coaches were not completely fing up

the other two conley and gasol only made it once in their careers and that was in 2013

but then you can find examples like robert covington among others who only made it once in their careers and that was after 2013

in case anyone was wondering

Interesting. Will take a look at the before/after data as well.

[post]

20% of the vote goes to fans/coaches/players/media/analytics for 100% total

certainly a compromise