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Good college starter
Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Are we seriously going to ignore this stat? Davis never drew this many fouls. You have a whole Lakers team drawing fouls, and they wouldn't be in the playoffs if Lebron didn't complain about the whistle and throw a tantrum.
At 25 drives per game, they average fewer drives to the rim than even the Warriors throughout the playoffs. No reason to give them 30 extra free throws. Game 2 was called fair.
You guys gotta be realistic about this. I know you want Lebron to get his 5th ring while being a lot slower, and less impactful at shooting, but this is not the way. This is fraudulent. The entire media baited Golden State to talk about the officiating, but GS couldn't say anything without a big fine. The Lakers success right now is manufactured and you guys gotta see it. This affects your politics and your worldview.
37-8 free throw advantage.
Warriors sit everyone out and now Lakers 0 free throws, Warriors 10 straight free throws to pad the numbers. These are facts.
Last edited by Walk on Water; 05-07-2023 at 08:00 PM.
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Lol
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Imagine melting down before the series even ends.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Lakers are #1 in points in the paint in the Playoffs while GS is last and the Lakers actually average more drives per game (36.4 to 36.1 for GS) but not by a significant margin, though GS would rather kick the ball out for an open 3 since they're a great 3PT shooting team so that probably skews the numbers more than anything. Also, there's more to drawing fouls than just driving to the hoop.
Game 2 was called fair but Lakers weren't attacking either, they were content with going home 1 - 1 which is why you barely saw them attack the paint in that game.
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Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by Walk on Water
Are we seriously going to ignore this stat? Davis never drew this many fouls. You have a whole Lakers team drawing fouls, and they wouldn't be in the playoffs if Lebron didn't complain about the whistle and throw a tantrum.
At 25 drives per game, they average fewer drives to the rim than even the Warriors throughout the playoffs. No reason to give them 30 extra free throws. Game 2 was called fair.
You guys gotta be realistic about this. I know you want Lebron to get his 5th ring while being a lot slower, and less impactful at shooting, but this is not the way. This is fraudulent. The entire media baited Golden State to talk about the officiating, but GS couldn't say anything without a big fine. The Lakers success right now is manufactured and you guys gotta see it. This affects your politics and your worldview.
37-8 free throw advantage.
Warriors sit everyone out and now Lakers 0 free throws, Warriors 10 straight free throws to pad the numbers. These are facts.
What you mean is that they wouldn't be in the playoffs is LeShrivel hadn't sat out for six weeks and let the rest of the team thrive without his dead weight.
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Good college starter
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Lakers are #1 in points in the paint in the Playoffs while GS is last and the Lakers actually average more drives per game (36.4 to 36.1 for GS) but not by a significant margin, though GS would rather kick the ball out for an open 3 since they're a great 3PT shooting team so that probably skews the numbers more than anything. Also, there's more to drawing fouls than just driving to the hoop.
Game 2 was called fair but Lakers weren't attacking either, they were content with going home 1 - 1 which is why you barely saw them attack the paint in that game.
That explanation doesn’t explain the extreme difference. Also doesn’t explain how all of a sudden the Warriors got 10 straight free throws and Lakers none once it didn’t count. There is something to that.
Plus all the media kept baiting Warriors to talk about the officiating. If there’s nothing to see, why bring it up?
Last edited by Walk on Water; 05-07-2023 at 08:20 PM.
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Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by Walk on Water
That explanation doesn’t explain the extreme difference. Also doesn’t explain how all of a sudden the Warriors got 10 straight free throws and Lakers none once it didn’t count. There is something to that.
Plus all the media kept baiting Warriors to talk about the officiating. If there’s nothing to see, why bring it up?
It's clear bias in favor of the Lakers. You're never going to get Bronie fluffers to admit it though, no matter how blatant it is. They're as blind as they are dumb.
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Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Well which specific ones were called unfairly?
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High School Starter
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
It's called Wilt Davis. You saw what happens when they attack with AD around the basket. You have AD, LeBron, Rui, Vanderbilt trying to swat everything. Does this make sense to you now? GS getting to the free throw line after starters sit, why is that? Still dont know? Because team blockzilla all on the bench.
GS is built with elite SHOOTING but you morons expect them to have great interior defence to or something. In that case Curry and Klay should just join Lebron in LA. Elite inside and outside.
People complaining about the lopsided foul calls, brain is still playing checkers.
Last edited by lxlHoTsAuSelxl; 05-07-2023 at 11:55 PM.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by Walk on Water
That explanation doesn’t explain the extreme difference. Also doesn’t explain how all of a sudden the Warriors got 10 straight free throws and Lakers none once it didn’t count. There is something to that.
Plus all the media kept baiting Warriors to talk about the officiating. If there’s nothing to see, why bring it up?
Yeah it does. Lakers are the best at scoring in the paint and have a massive advantage at the rim on both ends of the court with AD. A jump-shooting team like GS isn't going to get nearly the same amount of FTs because Davis is constantly defending the paint.
You can't get to the FT line if you're not being fouled. Lakers are great at defending without fouling. Warriors are a complete opposite.
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Yeah it does. Lakers are the best at scoring in the paint and have a massive advantage at the rim on both ends of the court with AD. A jump-shooting team like GS isn't going to get nearly the same amount of FTs because Davis is constantly defending the paint.
You can't get to the FT line if you're not being fouled. Lakers are great at defending without fouling. Warriors are a complete opposite.
Honestly, if after watching the game no one sees this, it must mean that person is braindead. And itd also funny coming from a Warrior fan, NBA record in illegal non called screens lol.
And actually, the refs aren’t even calling a near as many fouls as they should. Due to size, the Warriors only chance is to foul all the time and they’re doing it several times in nearly every single posession and the refs are letting many ones go…
If anything you should be happy that they’re favoring GS as usual.
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Good college starter
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Yeah it does. Lakers are the best at scoring in the paint and have a massive advantage at the rim on both ends of the court with AD. A jump-shooting team like GS isn't going to get nearly the same amount of FTs because Davis is constantly defending the paint.
You can't get to the FT line if you're not being fouled. Lakers are great at defending without fouling. Warriors are a complete opposite.
That's crazy if you really believe that. U are wrong my friend. AD is good, but not great. Always has been soft. You're better than this. I can tell your bias but you are intelligent. I get it, you're a purple and gold fan.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by Walk on Water
That's crazy if you really believe that. U are wrong my friend. AD is good, but not great. Always has been soft. You're better than this. I can tell your bias but you are intelligent. I get it, you're a purple and gold fan.
They're not trying to go at AD unless they have an advantage on him like the Wiggins dunk. AD is the best defensive player in the league this season. He's not consistent from game to game but he's been great in 2 out of 3 games, which is when they had the FT advantage.
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Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Klay is not physical.
Poole is scared to go in the lane
Wiggins plays midrange more than driving(he doesn't have the handle to drive in traffic)
Steph has been driving but he's been seeking the contact and the refs are just not falling for the bait in LA.
It's styles. 3 pointers from 2 Godly shooters is more sustainable than physical modern traditional ball but I believe AD is locked in Defensively and the lakers have enough offensive roleplayers to get a random 15-20 point game( Denis, Rui, Reaves,)
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Local High School Star
Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
Originally Posted by Walk on Water
Are we seriously going to ignore this stat? Davis never drew this many fouls. You have a whole Lakers team drawing fouls, and they wouldn't be in the playoffs if Lebron didn't complain about the whistle and throw a tantrum.
At 25 drives per game, they average fewer drives to the rim than even the Warriors throughout the playoffs. No reason to give them 30 extra free throws. Game 2 was called fair.
You guys gotta be realistic about this. I know you want Lebron to get his 5th ring while being a lot slower, and less impactful at shooting, but this is not the way. This is fraudulent. The entire media baited Golden State to talk about the officiating, but GS couldn't say anything without a big fine. The Lakers success right now is manufactured and you guys gotta see it. This affects your politics and your worldview.
37-8 free throw advantage.
Warriors sit everyone out and now Lakers 0 free throws, Warriors 10 straight free throws to pad the numbers. These are facts.
There is more than one way to get the ball into the paint, so even if they don't drive as much as other teams that doesn't mean they aren't getting rim pressure with interior passes. Also it's easier to defend the paint without fouling if you are tall and agile, than it is if you aren't. Warriors defend the interior with aggressive physicality and swipes at ball. Real easy to foul a lot with that defensive approach.
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Re: Lakers drive to the hoop fewer than all remaining teams
There are different strategies for different teams. Golden State is LITTLE. Oh, lets not skip the fact that the Lakers led the league all season in FT attempts and Golden State led the league in FT attempts allowed
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