If Jokic wins with normal/organic roster & dominant scoring/advanced stats, then...

[3ba11]

he's already better than the Lebron in the all-time rankings.

This season will bump Lebron down the rankings because it taught everyone that Lebron isn't capable of being a dominant off-ball player (low time of possession player) and his normally-dominant stat lines don't translate when playing off-ball.

This matters because if he could dominate off-ball with 30 ppg instead of a garbage 20 ppg, these Lakers would be dominant favorites and a shoe-in for the title.. The off-ball play has allowed Reaves and company to play to capacity, so the only thing missing is Lebron adding 30 ppg on top of what is already there via off-ball play and expert jumpshoting skill - but again, he can only contribute a weak 22 ppg with garbage efficiency.

To summarize - if Jokic wins this year, he will prove superior to Lebron based on stats (advanced metrics) and also having a skillset that needs less help to win, aka a skillset that doesn't impose spot-up roles and therefore yields the teammate development, chemistry, and strategic capacity/coaching required to win with less supporting talent (organically).

[Axe]

1-9

[SouBeachTalents]

Banned

[1987_Lakers]

I purposely brought up his 2013 post from another site so he could make another thread like this. I knew it would upset him.

[Axe]

Lmfao into the freaking toilet once more.

[tontoz]

How would a season at age 38 bump anyone down in the all time rankings? That makes no sense. Most guys are already retired by 38.

[Phoenix]

I found it curious the amount of leeway 3nutball was given this week.

[red1]

this kid 3ball is literally mentally ill

[John8204]

He jumps ahead of a number of players...not Lebron that's dumb

Wade - yes
Harden - yes
Durant - yes
Barry - yes
Ewing - yes
Robinson - yes
Frazier - yes
Iverson - yes
Kidd - yes
Thomas - yes

Shaq - no
Baylor - no
Barkley - no
Giannis - no
CPIII - no
Havlicek - no
Dirk - no
Garnett - no
Dr. J - no