Is Jimmy Butler better than Kawhi?

[Wally450]

Currently? Yes. At their peaks, Kawhi was otherworldly.

[GrayGoat]

I would normally say kawhi but what butler has shown the past 3 years has been remarkable... a MJ level competitor. It's about a draw to me.

A lot of people on this site have called giannis a super mega star and never rank butler over him despite butler generally having his number and whooping his ass even playing with less help.

So everybody has been underrated Jimmy butler.

To be fair Butler and Giannis have traded series wins the past 4 years. They are pretty equal

[WhiteKyrie]

No but Jimmy is a beast. And Jimmy > Yanni

[RRR3]

Yes? KB is the only wing player that's even close to Jordan when looking at his Playoff track record bro. You can post the memes about his efficiency numbers & cherry-pick the series he played injured in but you'd be a ****ing idiot to argue against that. "oh he had Shaq so it doesn't count", "oh he had one bad shooting night in this series so he wasn't the best player" gtfoh.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yes? KB is the only wing player that's even close to Jordan when looking at his Playoff track record bro. You can post the memes about his efficiency numbers & cherry-pick the series he played injured in but you'd be a ****ing idiot to argue against that. "oh he had Shaq so it doesn't count", "oh he had one bad shooting night in this series so he wasn't the best player" gtfoh.

wtf track record are you looking at?

[WhiteKyrie]

Kobe never lost with a number 1 seed to an 8th seed. That’s for damn sure

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe never lost with a number 1 seed to an 8th seed. That’s for damn sure

what the **** are you talking about? how does your brain think this is a post worth making?

[RRR3]

what the **** are you talking about? how does your brain think this is a post worth making?

Probably so senile he thinks LeBron did that.

[WhiteKyrie]

what the **** are you talking about? how does your brain think this is a post worth making?

We stating facts out here, that’s all.

[tpols]

Kobe never lost with a number 1 seed to an 8th seed. That’s for damn sure

Quite the contrary... Kobe used to catch big heat for losing as a 7 seed.

[ImKobe]

wtf track record are you looking at?

Idk 5/7 Finals, beat most 50+ win teams all-time, spanked prime Duncan over & over again.. part of the only 3-Peat since the 90s Bulls..

[SouBeachTalents]

Idk 5/7 Finals, beat most 50+ win teams all-time, spanked prime Duncan over & over again.. part of the only 3-Peat since the 90s Bulls..

Eh, he was the sidekick bro, most definitely for the first one. Is Kobe really the closest to Jordan when 4 other guys have more FMVP's than him?

[WhiteKyrie]

Quite the contrary... Kobe used to catch big heat for losing as a 7 seed.

With Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Chris Mihm

[ImKobe]

Eh, he was the sidekick bro, most definitely for the first one. Is Kobe really the closest to Jordan when 4 other guys have more FMVP's than him?

He was no Pippen lmao. Pippen wasn't a closer. He was the best player in the world in '01 at 22 yrs old. Real finals were played out West but we don't need to have this argument every single time.

[John8204]

If we are talking all-time legacy of players in the game all-time for me..

1. Lebron James
2. Steph Curry
3. Chris Paul
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. Kwahi Leonard
6. Kevin Durant
7. James Harden
8. Jimmy Butler
9. Nikola Jokic
10. Joel Embiid
11. Damian Lillard
12. Klay Thompson
13. Anthony Davis
14. Luka Doncic
15. Jason Tatum
16. Russell Westbrook
17. Kyrie Irving
18. Kevin Love
19. Paul George
20. Draymond Green

I don't think he can pass Harden this year...but he has easily established himself as a top 50 player. And I think he's better than mr "advanced stats" MVP.