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    https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/4/21/23...walker-houston

    Like a glove. A frontcourt of Lauri Markkanen, Jarace Walker, and Walker Kessler would be a ridiculous foundation moving forward. If you believe in his shooting prospects, then he might be the #2 player in the draft for the Utah Jazz. He’d allow Markkanen to maintain positional size at the 3 while providing an elite switchable defender to go alongside Kessler’s rim protection. Add in Ochai Agbaji as a 3-and-D wing and you’re a really good point guard away from an extremely fun and high-potential team.
    can't see Lauri staying at the 3 if they want to go anywhere

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    https://thejnotes.com/2023/04/21/ran...-jazz-history/

    5. Pete Maravich and Truck Robinson
    Truck played less than 2 seasons with them

    4. Adrian Dantley and Darrell Griffth
    too bad Layden never got over Griffith holding out and they replaced him with the stiff Hansen

    3. Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams
    Boozer was their 3rd best PF!

    2. Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert
    Conley and Gobert were better sadly

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    https://hoopshabit.com/2023/04/21/wi...radley-beal/4/

    However, Beal’s expected salary of $46.7 million dollars next season dwarfs Clarkson’s anticipated earnings of $14.2 million. In order to make the numbers work, the Jazz will most likely have to part ways with Collin Sexton and Talen Horton-Tucker. Sexton and Horton-Tucker are both productive role players and they are relatively young, so Washington would welcome them with open arms. This scenario also allows Utah to retain the services of Ochai Agbaji, who is only 22 years old and had the potential to be a future All-Star in his own right.
    doubt they want Beal

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    not surprising. Jensen didn't seem to be one of the guys he looked to on the bench. Been a long run for him in Utah!

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    https://www.deseret.com/sports/2023/...h-is-in-motion

    In his March report, Friedman wrote that Utah hosting the Winter Olympic Games again in the future “could lead to new facilities, including a future home for the NBA team and an NHL brother.”
    the recent renovation was supposed to keep the arena viable for a long time. Might need a new hockey arena though

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    https://thejnotes.com/2023/04/23/2-f...sion-rivals/3/

    Considering the Jazz’s current cap situation this offseason, they could opt to make a bigger-scale signing like Grant. He provides ample size, scoring, and shooting which could all be of value for Utah this upcoming season. A signing like this also prevents the Jazz from parting ways with some of their valuable players or draft assets in order to address the need at PF.
    they have Lauri. No need other than to get a young guy to develop there

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    Joe Mussatto: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander finished second behind Lauri Markkanen for Most Improved Player. SGA received 24 1st place votes. Markkanen received 69 1st place votes.

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    https://www.deseret.com/2023/4/23/23...udoka-azubuike

    He gets this grade because he hasn’t proven that he deserves more than an expiring deal.
    harsh! Don't agree. He's shown he can play at this level and should get a look from someone next year

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    Ryan Miller: The Jazz just officially announced the Salt Lake Summer League will return. It’ll be July 3;5-6 and feature the Grizzlies, 76ers and Thunder.
    – via Twitter millerjryan

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    Tony East: Pacers rookie Bennedict Mathurin finishes fourth place in Rookie of the Year voting. He received 4 second-place votes and 15 third-place votes. Came in just ahead of Keegan Murray and behind Paolo Banchero (the winner), Jalen Williams, and Walker Kessler.
    – via Twitter TEastNBA

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    Default Re: 2023 off-season

    https://kslsports.com/500660/chatgpt...s-of-all-time/

    Stockton
    Malone
    Gobert
    Dantley
    Maravich
    Williams

    whoever you choose but certainly not Eaton

    Williams was one of the top point guards in the league during his time in Utah and was the leader of the best team the franchise has seen since Stockton and Malone left the organization.
    the best team because they made the finals by getting lucky and facing an 8th seed?

    Boozer and Gobert should both likely be ranked higher on this list based on accolades, statistics, and team success, while Hayward is significantly over-ranked at number 10.
    Boozer was usually hurt, didn't play D and was the 3rd best PF on the roster

    First, a Hall of Fame career is valued more highly than team success, as was the case for Dantley and Maravich earning top-four rankings.
    Dantley had team success once he had a team. I wasn't around for Pete so I can't say as much there

    Second, longevity played a major role in the rankings as Eaton, Hornacek, and Hayward earned spots in the top 10 over Donovan Mitchell who was unquestionably the better player for the Jazz, with the better statistical resume.
    Eaton sucked but the advanced stats tell a different story. Mitchell 2nd highest usage behind the Drugslinger. Nowhere else does he rank. Am inefficient gunner who didn't pass or play D and was lucky to play with Gobert

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    Default Re: 2023 off-season

    https://saltcityhoops.com/jazz-award...y-clutch-6moy/

    Golden Griff (yeah, the man had TWO badass nicknames) would be a fine choice, too. He averaged 20.6 as a rookie, in an era before the 3-point shot was a major weapon. (He made just 10 threes all year.) Griff was the second option right away for a team that finished 28-54, and he scored just over a point per shot attempt. Don was slightly more efficient, on a much more relevant team, and at the end of the day he’s one of the best half dozen Jazz players from a historical standpoint. Someone that good just had to be memorialized somewhere on this list of fake trophies.
    Griff was better no matter what Layden or Hansen think

    Williams is close at 30 such shots. It should also mean something that Williams was his era’s clutch table-setter, as opposed to Okur who was more often the pressure release valve. On the other hand, Okur was beloved specifically for always being ready with these types of shots. And making THAT many super-clutch bombs when the ball wasn’t even his hands most of the time makes what Okur did even more impressive. The gap in macro quality in the historical scheme of things is narrower here than in the Griff-Mitchell case; Okur and Williams were both Jazz All-Stars.
    Okur wasn't really an all star though. The commissoners choice. He didn't really deserve it did he?

    Here’s what broke the tie for me: Clarkson was way more likely to TAKE the shot. He attempted 22.2 field goals per every 36 minutes of clutch play, where Olynyk took just 9.5. Being “clutch” is about more than just making the final shot; it’s at least partially defined by who teams trust enough to put the ball in their hands when the game hangs in the balance. That was Clarkson, the Jazz’s leader in total clutch points (120) and assists (18).
    because Olynyk was more likely to pass to to the open man which is what you just said about Deron over Okur

    In addition to winning our fake Jazz-focused clutch award, Clarkson is also the only Jazz winner of the real 6MOY trophy. So naming a Jazz bench award after him seems like a no-brainer. The only worthy alternatives are Thurl Bailey and Joe Ingles. The former was a majority bench player for six of his eight full seasons in Utah, and averaged 15.7 points and 5.5 boards in those years. The latter had his own case for the 2021 award that Clarkson won, and was a beloved figure who brought order to Utah’s bench units for years.
    Ingles should have won it and Thurl was by far a better player

    That said, there’s a perception out there that Malone choked on the biggest stage, and that is blatantly unfair. He was a superb playoff performer. During an 11-year stretch dating from his first series win to the second Finals — 128 total playoff games — the Mailman averaged 27.4 points and 11.5 rebounds. In the Finals years alone, he averaged 27-10-4 and scored nearly a point and a half per shot. People will recall the “Mailman don’t deliver on Sundays” free throws and the MJ strip in 1998 Game 6 forever. But that’s an extremely small sample size against a massive body of impressive postseason work. Malone was a playoff beast.
    played his worst when it counted most

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    https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-...coaching-staff

    As mentioned by Sportando, Messina and Hardy have a history together and it makes sense that they could gel quickly with styles of coaching and philosophy. It’s not sure how likely this is, but it’s something to watch and could be the next big addition to this team that could help the Jazz take things to another level next season. Considering that Alexa Jensen and Irv Roland are out it makes even more sense the Jazz would be looking for more additions.
    obviously they are adding guys. Hardy inherited most of them. He's going to want his own guys. Seems like the staff is smaller than it had been for a long time too?

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