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Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
than previous eras
This shows that today's spaced-out, non-physical, "beginner" format yields a threes and layups skillet that is inferior to the instinct, shot diversity and touch required of the unspaced, physical eras (advanced format).
I watched Luka literally gallivant down the lane untouched for the easiest layup anyone could ever make - so why can't he average 40 in this format?.. It's because of weak pure scoring ability (touch, instinct, repertoire) compared to the best scorers in prior eras.. Let's face it - Luka has 1 go-to move - the hesitation, between-the-legs move and I guess a step-back too - that's it - that's why no 40 ppg
Last edited by 3ba11; 01-01-2023 at 04:04 PM.
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
luka could do it easily considering his usage rate but I think he and others are worried about the negative press it would attract
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Luka is a more talented player than Jordan.
When I watch Jordan youtube game footage, I don't see we are missing anything vs today's players.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
MJ couldn't average 40 in the no defense 80's.
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by 8Ball
Luka is a more talented player than Jordan.
When I watch Jordan youtube game footage, I don't see we are missing anything vs today's players.
vlade divac was a more talented player than Jordan offensively too. that isn't saying much. there's probly a ton of 6 foot nothing white guys that are better than most guys in the nba
what made jordan was being that skilled in a 6'6 black guys frame woth insane athleticism. to be that good of a mid range shooter with a ball that fits in your hand like a grapefruit is extremely rare
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Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
MJ couldn't average 40 in the no defense 80's.
The biggest factor on offense is spacing
Jordan averaged 37/5/5 on 48% without spacing when teams were giving up 5 less points per 100 possession.
I remember when we used to quibble about a 1 or 2 point gap in league ORTG when comparing the 1988 to 2009, but now the gap is literally 5-10 points depending on the year we're looking at - it's a massive gap/advantage, yet today's robots (threes and layups bums) can't do shit about it...
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
MJ couldn't average 40 in the no defense 80's.
there was defense. just none that could stop MJ cause back then nobody could match up with him.
today any fat sloth can average 40 with enough skill. athleticism is obsolete in today's nba due to the small ball/freedom of movement
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Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by Yeezy
there was defense. just none that could stop MJ cause back then nobody could match up with him.
today any fat sloth can average 40 with enough skill. athleticism is obsolete in today's nba due to the small ball/freedom of movement
It's funny that everyone says that today's game has better athletes yet all I see are slow, fat guys that are "moving their feet" and getting repeatedly destroyed by fast ball-handlers - today's game is a joke.. who can't move their feet like plumlee or vucevic or horford? .. those guys aren't world-beaters and the league is fulleof these "athletes"
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
A kobe stan and a jordan stan butt hurt that today's players are more talented.
Luka and Jokic about miles ahead of Jordan passing wise, and equal at scoring.
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
If Jordan and Kobe were better basketball players, they would be able to pass like Luka, Jokic and LeBron.
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by Yeezy
vlade divac was a more talented player than Jordan offensively too. that isn't saying much. there's probly a ton of 6 foot nothing white guys that are better than most guys in the nba
what made jordan was being that skilled in a 6'6 black guys frame woth insane athleticism. to be that good of a mid range shooter with a ball that fits in your hand like a grapefruit is extremely rare
The difference is every wing defender today is a 6’5-6’9 athletic black guy that lifts weight, watches film and most importantly can play zone defense. What made Jordan unique was iso-ing against Craig Ehlo and Jeff Hornacek with no help defense
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Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
MJ couldn't average 40 in the no defense 80's.
Non-shooters like SGA or Zion barely average 25 at the rim in today's wide open paint, so they would barely average 20 against the packed paints and unspaced courts of prior decades, aka Larry Johnson or Isiah Rider
So they can barely get 25 against open paint, while Jordan averaged 37 against packed paints because he had goat repertoire and pure scoring ability (touch in traffic, instinct, expert jumpshooting)
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by 8Ball
A kobe stan and a jordan stan butt hurt that today's players are more talented.
Luka and Jokic about miles ahead of Jordan passing wise, and equal at scoring.
why wouldnt they be more talented. if you take the necessity of athleticism and size out of the game with rule changes there will naturally be more talented players
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Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Originally Posted by expansionera
The difference is every wing defender today is a 6’5-6’9 athletic black guy that lifts weight, watches film and most importantly can play zone defense. What made Jordan unique was iso-ing against Craig Ehlo and Jeff Hornacek with no help defense
The paints were packed in previous eras so the help defense was already there and WAITING - they didn't have to come from the weakside like today's spaced courts.. No spacing = closer help defenders
Prior eras didn't have today's 3-point strategy to draw defenders away from the rim and space the floor, so the paint stayed packed
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NBA Legend
Re: Why can't anyone get 40 ppg since today's game allows 5-10 more pts per 100 poss
Jordan's 37ppg in the regular season led Chicago to a first round sweep.
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