Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?

[John8204]

all time
did you say 'all time '
are you really telling me 'all time'

I'd put him at about 25 in centers and 60 on all-time list.

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60 All-time makes sense he's top 15 for centers maybe top 10 for "offensive" centers.

But people really are being prisoners of the moment here for a guy that doesn't have a ring, and hasn't gotten close. Dan Issel has roughly the same numbers and nobody cares about Dan Issel

https://www.basketball-reference.com...isselda01.html

[Yeezy]

Yeah, I don't think dropping 20ppg in the right situation is out there, but 15 rebounds? Lol no.

literally anyone can average 20ppg in the right situation today. it's not even a lot




an agile 7 footer that can average 11rpg in 1994 can easily add 3 or 4 more playing today

pace was way down in 94 too


teams would have games of 85 to 79 routinely... now it's 115 to 110

[Phoenix]

he would. his role was miniscule back then compared to what it would be today. his minutes would go up because he would be the leader of a team. his rebounds would easily go from 10 per 36min to 14/15 with small ball centers instead of fighting for them vs guys like shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing

he would be his teams top playmaker. 7/8 assists would be the minimum.. and 20 points is a fair assessment

Based on what? How do you know what team he'd be on to say he'd be the leader and top playmaker? Suppose he was on the Warriors, the Bucks, the Celtics, the Mavs. You're saying he's going to average 4 more rebounds than Jokic.

[Phoenix]

literally anyone can average 20ppg in the right situation today. it's not even a lot

Which is why I say based on where he's playing it's not out of the realm of possibility/likelihood. He's not grabbing 15 boards, in order to get 7-8 assists he's probably going to be out on the perimeter/pitch post area alot meaning he's not going to be in position to grab 15 boards.

[Yeezy]

Based on what? How do you know what team he'd be on to say he'd be the leader and top playmaker? Suppose he was on the Warriors, the Bucks, the Celtics, the Mavs. You're saying he's going to average 4 more rebounds than Jokic.

vlade is looked at as one of the top 5 big man passers of all time you nitwit


he would be the focal point of an offense in today's league. he had long range abilities too. agile. handles. he had it all. you're absolutely clueless


he played in a real big man era at a time when foreign guys weren't given much credibility. in today's league he would be a top 5 mvp candidate lol

[Phoenix]

vlade is looked at as one of the top 5 big man passers of all time you nitwit


he would be the focal point of an offense in today's league. he had long range abilities too. agile. handles. he had it all. you're absolutely clueless


he played in a real big man era at a time when foreign guys weren't given much credibility

Again, that depends on the team jackass. You put him on the teams I mentioned. No, he's not going to be the focal point you fukking c*nt. Focal point over Steph? Giannis? Luka? The 15 boards thing is laughable. 20 points? On the right team, sure. Anyone can score 20 today like you said.

You're an idiot.

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eventually someone like jokic will shoot like curry

[1987_Lakers]

vlade is looked at as one of the top 5 big man passers of all time you nitwit

Divac was on the same level as a passer as Pau Gasol. You have to be an extraordinary passer from the C spot like Walton or Jokic to run your offense through you.

[FultzNationRISE]

vlade is looked at as one of the top 5 big man passers of all time you nitwit


he would be the focal point of an offense in today's league. he had long range abilities too. agile. handles. he had it all. you're absolutely clueless


he played in a real big man era at a time when foreign guys weren't given much credibility. in today's league he would be a top 5 mvp candidate lol

Vlade would probably more closely resemble Domantas Sabonis, who's currently averaging a well rounded 18/12/6.

Joker is just a bigger dude, which allows him to bully more, which also opens even more passing opportunities. Sure there are guys in the past who have comparable styles, but it doesnt mean they can do it to the same level. People say Pippen and Lebron have similar skill sets and body types (*wink*) but that doesnt mean Pippen could ever dominate to the extent Lebron does.

[Yeezy]

Again, that depends on the team jackass. You put him on the teams I mentioned. No, he's not going to be the focal point you fukking c*nt. Focal point over Steph? Giannis? Luka?

You're an idiot.

prime divac would be the best player on these teams right now

- New York
- Toronto
- Chicago
- Cleveland
- Utah
- Orlando ( for a year or 2 at least )
- Indiana
- Washington
- Detroit
- Charlotte
- OKC
- Sanantonio
- Houston


and you could trade him with the best player on these teams and they wouldn't be much worse. in most cases possibly better

- Denver
- Miami
- Atlanta
- Lakers
- Minnesota

[1987_Lakers]

prime divac would be the best player on these teams right now

- New York
- Toronto
- Chicago
- Cleveland
- Utah
- Orlando
- Indiana
- Washington
- Detroit
- Charlotte
- OKC
- Sanantonio
- Houston


and you could trade him with the best player on these teams and they wouldn't be much worse

- Denver
- Miami
- Atlanta
- Lakers
- Minnesota

[Yeezy]

Vlade would probably more closely resemble Domantas Sabonis, who's currently averaging a well rounded 18/12/6.

Joker is just a bigger dude, which allows him to bully more, which also opens even more passing opportunities. Sure there are guys in the past who have comparable styles, but it doesnt mean they can do it to the same level. People say Pippen and Lebron have similar skill sets and body types (*wink*) but that doesnt mean Pippen could ever dominate to the extent Lebron does.

vlade held his own vs 7 foot 300 pound Legends. I think he would be the bully today like jokic

[Yeezy]

a 38 year old stiff is averaging a near 30 point triple double in your soft ass league lol


a fat adult baby with down syndrome is a near 3 time back to back to back league mvp and can put up 40/25/10 games

the nba is officially a joke

[ShawkFactory]

prime divac would be the best player on these teams right now

- New York
- Toronto
- Chicago
- Cleveland
- Utah
- Orlando ( for a year or 2 at least )
- Indiana
- Washington
- Detroit
- Charlotte
- OKC
- Sanantonio
- Houston


and you could trade him with the best player on these teams and they wouldn't be much worse. in most cases possibly better

- Denver
- Miami
- Atlanta
- Lakers
- Minnesota

Holy shit

[Phoenix]

prime divac would be the best player on these teams right now

- New York
- Toronto
- Chicago
- Cleveland
- Utah
- Orlando ( for a year or 2 at least )
- Indiana
- Washington
- Detroit
- Charlotte
- OKC
- Sanantonio
- Houston


and you could trade him with the best player on these teams and they wouldn't be much worse. in most cases possibly better

- Denver
- Miami
- Atlanta
- Lakers
- Minnesota

No, that wouldn't be the case for a quite a few of those teams. Right off the top no, he's not going to be better than Mitchell in Cleveland, Derozan in Chicago,Beal, or SGA. Otherwise, you have no idea what the team roster would be to say he's dropping 15 and 8 rebounds/assists.