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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
divac would average 20/15/8 today
No he wouldn't.
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National High School Star
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
hard to say
better than manute bol
worse than jordan
maybe
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
No he wouldn't.
if he did it for stretches in a legit big man era like 1995 then he would do it consistently today
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
the nikola jokic of the 90s
identical players. all skill. no luck shots
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
larry bird in today's nba would be a 1st team all nba center averaging 40/15/12
Bird peaked in a very friendly offensive era. He would thrive in this era, but I don't see his numbers being that much better than they were back then.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
if he did it for stretches in a legit big man era like 1995 then he would do it consistently today
Doing it for 20-30 games or whatever the count is above and doing it year over year are two different things, especially when considering being the focal point which he never was.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
boris diaw in today's league would average 20/10/9
Thats not really a knock on today’s league, Diaw was a hell of a talent. He was one of those guys like Baron and Sheed who didnt really care about being all time great players, but could have been if they did.
If Joker is a seven foot Diaw who cares about winning… thats a pretty good thing.
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Doing it for 20-30 games or whatever the count is above and doing it year over year are two different things, especially when considering being the focal point which he never was.
you obviously missed the entire context of the argument
doing it for 30 games vs 7 foot legit big men would translate to a full seasons worth against today's putrid centers
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by 1987_lakers
bird peaked in a very friendly offensive era. He would thrive in this era, but i don't see his numbers being that much better than they were back then.
ok 37/12/10
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
all time
did you say 'all time '
are you really telling me 'all time'
I'd put him at about 25 in centers and 60 on all-time list.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
you obviously missed the entire context of the argument
doing it for 30 games vs 7 foot legit big men would translate to a full seasons worth against today's putrid centers
The argument wasn't missed, it was just dumb at its core. Being the 'keys to the game' focus of a defense which Joker is, and Divac never was, are two different things. Who do you think his primary competition would be today?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
divac would average 20/15/8 today
Imagine thinking Divac is averaging 15 rpg today, or even 8 apg.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Imagine thinking Divac is averaging 15 rpg today, or even 8 apg.
Yeah, I don't think dropping 20ppg in the right situation is out there, but 15 rebounds? Lol no.
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Yeezy
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Imagine thinking Divac is averaging 15 rpg today, or even 8 apg.
he would. his role was miniscule back then compared to what it would be today. his minutes would go up because he would be the leader of a team. his rebounds would easily go from 10 per 36min to 14/15 with small ball centers instead of fighting for them vs guys like shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing
he would be his teams top playmaker. 7/8 assists would be the minimum.. and 20 points is a fair assessment
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Re: Where would you rank prime Jokic all-time as an offensive player?
Originally Posted by Yeezy
he would. his role was miniscule back then compared to what it would be today. his minutes would go up because he would be the leader of a team. his rebounds would easily go from 10 per 36min to 14/15 with small ball centers instead of fighting for them vs guys like shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing
he would be his teams top playmaker. 7/8 assists would be the minimum.. and 20 points is a fair assessment
He had several seasons playing 34-35 mpg.
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