3 for 6 while hand-picking the preseason favorite super-team for 6 years (11-16')

[coastalmarker99]

"Defensively, he puts tremendous pressure on you. . . . He caused us a lot of problems, I think everybody is aware of that. We're aware of it," Sloan said. "We have trouble with him every time we play. And I don't know what more you can say. You can put him on any player on the floor, and he's going to do a terrific job defensively."

Why does 3ball always ignore Pippen's defense? lol

Because that does not fit his agenda of saying that Jordan won 6 rings by his lonesome.








Even when Pippen was clearly past his prime and in a lot of physical pain he was still the Bulls most important defensive player.

[3ba11]

Because that does not fit his agenda of saying that Jordan won 6 rings by his lonesome.

Show me a player in history that won multiple titles without an elite-scoring sidekick... Only Kobe (2) and MJ (6) .. Maybe Duncan

That's what everyone in history needs - juggernaut scoring help..... EXCEPT JORDAN... ONLY JORDAN could win every title by himself with a bunch of cheap defenders and zero go-to teammates (carrying scoring load)

[coastalmarker99]

Show me a player in history that won multiple titles without an elite-scoring sidekick

That's what everyone in history needs - juggernaut scoring help..... EXCEPT JORDAN... ONLY JORDAN could win every title by himself with a bunch of cheap defenders and zero go-to teammates (carrying scoring load)

There are plenty of players that could have won multiple titles with Jordan's teams against the weak competition he faced.

Magic

Kareem

Lebron

Wilt

Shaq

Hakeem

[1987_Lakers]

Show me a player in history that won multiple titles without an elite-scoring sidekick

That's what everyone in history needs - juggernaut scoring help..... EXCEPT JORDAN... ONLY JORDAN could win every title by himself with a bunch of cheap defenders and zero go-to teammates (carrying scoring load)

Bird

'81 postseason his 2nd option was Maxwell who averaged 16.1 ppg
'84 postseason his 2nd option was DJ who averaged 16.6 ppg

Not exactly elite 2nd options, not to mention none of them had Pippen's defensive impact.

[3ba11]

Bird

'81 postseason his 2nd option was Maxwell who averaged 16.1 ppg
'84 postseason his 2nd option was DJ who averaged 16.6 ppg

Not exactly elite 2nd options, not to mention none of them had Pippen's defensive impact.

Those teams didn't require carrying the scoring load

The Bulls required Jordan to carry the scoring load - only Jordan had to carry the scoring load (defeat maximum defensive attention) for more than 2 titles, let alone 6...

[coastalmarker99]

Shaq carried the biggest scoring load in finals history,


As he almost averaged 40 and 20 while his sidekick averaged a terrible 15 PPG on a horrible field goal percentage.

[3ba11]

Shaq carried the biggest scoring load in finals history,


As he almost averaged 40 and 20 while his sidekick averaged a terrible 15 PPG on a horrible field goal percentage.

Shaq won 1 chip that way (carrying scoring load, aka defeating max defensive attention)

Jordan won 6 - no one else won more than 2

[1987_Lakers]

Those teams didn't require carrying the scoring load

If it helps you sleep at night. We all know you said peak Bron = peak Jordan

[SouBeachTalents]

There are plenty of players that could have won multiple titles with Jordan's teams against the weak competition he faced.

Magic

Kareem

Lebron

Wilt

Shaq

Hakeem

It's been pointed out to him literally dozens of times, so it's obvious he will just continue to avoid the subject, but Pippen outscored the opponents 2nd option in 19 of the Bulls 24 series during their title years. So he can drone on and on and on about scoring, but Pippen was the superior 2nd option just based on scoring in the vast majority of Chicago's series, and that isn't even taking into account his GOAT level defense and all around play.

[3ba11]

It's been pointed out to him literally dozens of times, so it's obvious he will just continue to avoid the subject, but Pippen outscored the opponents 2nd option in 19 of the Bulls 24 series during their title years. So he can drone on and on and on about scoring, but Pippen was the superior 2nd option just based on scoring in the vast majority of Chicago's series, and that isn't even taking into account his GOAT level defense and all around play.

Every above-average sidekick will outscore opposing 2nd options the majority of the time, but they don't need a dynasty system like Pippen, or worst-ever efficiency and clutch.

Pippen was literally Jeff Green outside the dynasty system - he never outscored anyone outside of a system that set everything up for him, or Jordan taking all the defensive attention away from him - this is the historical record

You claim that he outscored guys but it was never by more than 1 or 2 points with worst-ever efficiency and clutch.. So the issue is that Pippen had low peak capability and couldn't dominate anyone (wasn't on scouting report), which forced MJ to face maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load).. That's why Pippen's low peak capability, worst-ever efficiency and clutch MATTERS.

Kukoc was a better option than Pippen in the 2nd half of playoff games - only MJ had a sidekick that couldn't outplay Kukoc in the clutch.

[Axe]

Yikes, op here getting bodybagged once again.

[Overdrive]

Every above-average sidekick will outscore opposing 2nd options the majority of the time, but they don't need a dynasty system like Pippen, or worst-ever efficiency and clutch.

Pippen was literally Jeff Green outside the dynasty system - he never outscored anyone outside of a system that set everything up for him, or Jordan taking all the defensive attention away from him - this is the historical record

You claim that he outscored guys but it was never by more than 1 or 2 points with worst-ever efficiency and clutch.. So the issue is that Pippen had low peak capability and couldn't dominate anyone (wasn't on scouting report), which forced MJ to face maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load).. That's why Pippen's low peak capability, worst-ever efficiency and clutch MATTERS.

Kukoc was a better option than Pippen in the 2nd half of playoff games - only MJ had a sidekick that couldn't outplay Kukoc in the clutch.

What did Jordan accomplish outside that system? If Pippen was Jeff Green without it Jordan was Jerry Stackhouse. Why can't you just admit that Pippen was great? It doesn't take away anything from Jordan.

[3ba11]

What did Jordan accomplish outside that system? If Pippen was Jeff Green without it Jordan was Jerry Stackhouse. Why can't you just admit that Pippen was great? It doesn't take away anything from Jordan.

because there's no evidence - all the evidence shows that he sucked.. show me where he dominated

You're literally trying to get me to admit to something that there's no evidence for

(which means that you're a lapdog that is willing to blindly repeat things you hear on TV despite no evidence)

Again, it's a historical FACT that Pippen was Jeff Green outside the triangle - that's a fact.

Otoh, Jordan was literally better than Hakeem and Giannis outside the triangle - 35/6/6 and DPOY (Hakeem is next-best with 27 and DPOY).. And Jordan was nearly carrying a nothing-cast to the 89' Finals over the Bad Boys

[Axe]

What did Jordan accomplish outside that system? If Pippen was Jeff Green without it Jordan was Jerry Stackhouse. Why can't you just admit that Pippen was great? It doesn't take away anything from Jordan.

Op is braindead lol

[3ba11]

Op is braindead lol

When did Pippen dominate like every other top 30 player?

He never even came close to having a dominant series and obviously wasn't capable of that

The historical record shows that he played at an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status

That's literally the historical record!!!!

You guys are just lapdogs that can't think for yourself or look at a set of facts and determine the truth.. So I honestly feel sorry for you guys that you can't discern truth and must accept bullshit that Pippen was a great player

The historical record shows that he was literally Jeff Green outside the triangle, and Iggy within it

Regarding Jordan and Jerry Stackhouse - Jordan was far better than Hakeem and Giannis outside the triangle - the best-scoring dpoy was Hakeem at 27 ppg, while MJ got 35/6/6 and nearly carried a nothing cast to the Finals over the Bad Boys