LeBron’s quest to match Magic and Kobe

[ArbitraryWater]

OP is still caught up in his fantasy world where he can spin a narrative around rings using words like "quest" and "iconic" lmao.


Wake up, coach.

[WhiteKyrie]

LeBron was the best player on all 4 of his titles.

Magic and Kobe??....... not so much.

2020 the Mickey Mouse bubble chip, that no one really puts stock in? Arguable.

In reality it was probably AD. He was the best player on both sides of the court, particularly defense, which allowed that team to be as good as they were. The year prior, they didn’t even make the playoffs, the very next season, they’re ahead on the Phoenix Suns in the first round, Anthony Davis goes down with an injury, LeBron proceeds to lose to a Devin Booker led Suns team, without their best player Chris Paul. The year before and the year after proved Anthony Davis when rarely healthy at that point was the best player on the team. He was the best player for them that entire 2020 season, and for the duration of the Mickey Mouse bubble playoffs.

Magic was the best player on all of his, at worst 4 (equal to LeBron at minimum) … Kobe was a clear sidekick in 2000, but was a top five player in the league in 2001 and 2002. So while Shaq was greater, Kobe was equally as important in those runs in terms of production. He wasn’t some sidekick. So Kobe was definitely the best player for 2 rings, arguably 4. Magic was the best player for 4 rings, but arguably 5. LeBron was the best player for 3 rings (one more definitive than Kobe) but arguably 4 given 2020.

[1987_Lakers]

2020 the Mickey Mouse bubble chip, that no one really puts stock in? Arguable.

If you want to play that game, how many people put stock in the Lakers 2002 chip when it was obvious the Kings were robbed according to many people.

In reality it was probably AD. He was the best player on both sides of the court, particularly defense, which allowed that team to be as good as they were. The year prior, they didn’t even make the playoffs, the very next season, they’re ahead on the Phoenix Suns in the first round, Anthony Davis goes down with an injury, LeBron proceeds to lose to a Devin Booker led Suns team

Yet, LeBron finished 2nd in MVP voting in 2020 and won Finals MVP, unanimously, something Kobe never did when he played with Shaq. ISH already did a poll to who was the playoff MVP in 2020 and LeBron won. You also disregard the fact that LeBron played on an injured ankle in the 2021 playoffs, nowhere near 100%.

Magic was the best player on all of his, at worst 4 (equal to LeBron at minimum) … Kobe was a clear sidekick in 2000, but was a top five player in the league in 2001 and 2002. So while Shaq was greater, Kobe was equally as important in those runs in terms of production. He wasn’t some sidekick.

Kareem was clearly better than Magic in 1980, him and Kareem were pretty much 1A and 1B in '82 & '85, he didn't take over as the clear alpha until 1987.

[SouBeachTalents]

If rangz is the most important criteria, forget Russell, Hondo should be ranked ahead of every player in history after Russell.

[LAL]

20 ****ing healthy seasons..

No heart, no skills, ring chasing stat padding coward. He's all stats and quits all the time.

[Hey Yo]

20 ****ing healthy seasons..

No heart, no skills, ring chasing stat padding coward. He's all stats and quits all the time.

Kobe kid calling another player a ring chaser.

[Full Court]

Bronie: more help than any other "great" in the history of the sport.






And STILL managed to lead a super team to the lottery.

[Full Court]

If rangz is the most important criteria, forget Russell, Hondo should be ranked ahead of every player in history after Russell.

It's not. FMVPs are the most important criterion. Winning a ring as an alpha. There are plenty of role players with lots of rings who aren't even in the top 100.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's not. FMVPs are the most important criterion. Winning a ring as an alpha. There are plenty of role players with lots of rings who aren't even in the top 100.

Well then that has you having LeBron fringe top 10 look extremely dubious, since he has more FMVP’s than anyone besides Jordan.

But even with this criteria, Hondo led 3 separate title teams in scoring, a feat matched by literally only a handful of players.

[Full Court]

Well then that has you having LeBron fringe top 10 look extremely dubious, since he has more FMVP’s than anyone besides Jordan.

But even with this criteria, Hondo led 3 separate title teams in scoring, a feat matched by literally only a handful of players.

FMVPs are the most important criteria.

Not the sole criteria. Epic choke jobs such as 2011 will hurt you in all time rankings too. This isn't rocket science.

[1987_Lakers]

FMVPs are the most important criteria.

Not the sole criteria. Epic choke jobs such as 2011 will hurt you in all time rankings too. This isn't rocket science.

Wilt's choke job in '69 was just as bad, he also has two less rings than Bron.

[Lebron23]

20 ****ing healthy seasons..

No heart, no skills, ring chasing stat padding coward. He's all stats and quits all the time.

Meltdown

[Lebron23]

Well then that has you having LeBron fringe top 10 look extremely dubious, since he has more FMVP’s than anyone besides Jordan.

But even with this criteria, Hondo led 3 separate title teams in scoring, a feat matched by literally only a handful of players.

The guy obviously is mentally retarded.

[GrayGoat]

Op why did Madonna prefer pippens bigger sausage over MJ’s?

[SouBeachTalents]

FMVPs are the most important criteria.

Not the sole criteria. Epic choke jobs such as 2011 will hurt you in all time rankings too. This isn't rocket science.

Being 2nd all time in the most important criteria would obviously supersede one atrocious series.

There's no way you can legitimately argue FMVP's are the most important criteria then claim the only other player in history with 4 of them is barely top 10 To do so you'd have to completely contradict yourself.