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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    1-9 isn't a response

    No one has responded to any of the facts I've presented throughout the years and this thread is a prime example

    I remember when I showed that Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance (hold-time) reduced teammate hold-time and assists, therefore yielding low TEAM assists and a brand that gets massively out-assisted in the Finals.. or banned
    And he still managed to beat GOAT ball-movement teams "superior brand of ball" in the 2013 Spurs and 2016 Warriors in the Finals, a fact you always run away from.

    And why haven't you responded to me catching you lying about stats again in another thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Completely disregards Magic's playmaking abilities, but you know what's worse? You lying about stats again.

    Worthy averaged 23.6 ppg in '87 postseason, you rounded that up to 24.
    Magic averaged 21.8 ppg in '87 postseason (also dished out 12 apg), you rounded that down to 21.

    Shameful.
    lol
    Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 09-19-2022 at 02:35 PM.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    All your topics have been responded to, YEARS ago. The difference is posters who have responded aren't crazy enough to repeat themselves over and over again after you make the exact same topic a few weeks later, they don't have loose screws like you do. Seriously, get some help.

    Each of my threads present new facts, so no one responded years ago because they're new and original arguments or facts that have never been previously looked at or discussed

    And 1-9 isn't a response

    So no one has responded to any of the facts I've presented throughout the years and this thread is a prime example

    I remember when I showed that Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance (hold-time) reduced teammate hold-time and assists, therefore yielding low TEAM assists and a brand that gets massively out-assisted in the Finals... There's no response to this because it's all facts... All I get is 1-9 or banned

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Each of my threads present new facts, so no one responded years ago because they're new and original arguments or facts that have never been previously looked at or discussed

    And 1-9 isn't a response

    So no one has responded to any of the facts I've presented throughout the years and this thread is a prime example

    I remember when I showed that Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance (hold-time) reduced teammate hold-time and assists, therefore yielding low TEAM assists and a brand that gets massively out-assisted in the Finals... There's no response to this because it's all facts... All I get is 1-9 or banned
    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    1-9 isn't a response

    No one has responded to any of the facts I've presented throughout the years and this thread is a prime example

    I remember when I showed that Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance (hold-time) reduced teammate hold-time and assists, therefore yielding low TEAM assists and a brand that gets massively out-assisted in the Finals.. or banned
    And he still managed to beat GOAT ball-movement teams "superior brand of ball" in the 2013 Spurs and 2016 Warriors in the Finals, a fact you always run away from.

    And why haven't you responded to me catching you lying about stats again in another thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Completely disregards Magic's playmaking abilities, but you know what's worse? You lying about stats again.

    Worthy averaged 23.6 ppg in '87 postseason, you rounded that up to 24.
    Magic averaged 21.8 ppg in '87 postseason (also dished out 12 apg), you rounded that down to 21.

    Shameful.
    lol

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    And he still managed to beat GOAT ball-movement teams "superior brand of ball" in the 2013 Spurs and 2016 Warriors in the Finals, a fact you always run away from.



    you're just citing the few times he won

    It's like citing individual wins from a lottery team's season - Lebron has a lottery record in the Finals

    4/10 means that he barely meets the underdog expectation that his weak brand yields

    His teams start off as the favorite and falls to underdog due to bad brand

    He's 22-33 overall in the Finals and 20-21 without 07', 15', 18'

    So he yields low team ceilings regardless of cast

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron has a lottery record in the Finals.. 4/10 means that he barely meets the underdog expectation that his weak brand yields

    His teams start off as the favorite and falls to underdog due to bad brand

    He's 22-33 overall in the Finals and 20-21 without 07', 15', 18'

    So he yields low team ceilings regardless of cast
    If you look at actual facts, he won 2 titles when he was an underdog (2012 & 2016)

    Lost only 1 title where he was a favorite.

    You're stupid enough to believe pre-season favorite is more accurate than the Vegas line right before the Finals starts.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    '94 preseason odds - Bulls only win 44 games

    Actual results. Bulls win 55 games without MJ.


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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    you're just citing the few times he won
    This is why nobody takes you serious, you sweep two titles under the rug like they are no big deal, one of those teams he beat won 73 games.

    And you still haven't answered why you lied about those Magic & Worthy stats.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    If you look at actual facts, he won 2 titles when he was an underdog (2012 & 2016)

    Lost only 1 title where he was a favorite.

    You're stupid enough to believe pre-season favorite is more accurate than the Vegas line right before the Finals starts.
    Jordan never lost as an underdog.

    Or a favorite.



    Just saying.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Jordan never lost as an underdog.

    Or a favorite.



    Just saying.
    He lost as a favorite in 1995. Try again.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Jordan never lost as an underdog.

    Or a favorite.



    Just saying.
    So he has 15 rings? Full retard

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    So he has 15 rings? Full retard
    Didn't realize MJ by himself won as an underdog vs that stacked Celtics team in the 80's.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron is box office

    He can also build a solid organic contender and 1 seed like he did in Cleveland by 2010.

    But to win chips, he needs juggernaut scoring help because he can't carry the scoring load in the Finals (insufficient brand at carry-job volume to beat top teams)

    And his brand also needs goat shooting help.

    No GM can provide this without Lebron and Klutch helping via collusion

    Carry on
    Exactly

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    He lost as a favorite in 1995. Try again.
    In finals. As in I was responding to your point about what Lebron did in title series. Did you really think I was implying he never lost a playoff series?


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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    In finals. As in I was responding to your point about what Lebron did in title series. Did you really think I was implying he never lost a playoff series?

    With you, you never know.

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    Default Re: A GM's dilemma w/ Lebron: Find the goat scoring & shooting help that his brand ne

    I think he waw a scorer with Anthony Davis hopefully he won't get injured next season. Lebron also needs atleast two 3-point specialists to be successful next season.

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