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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Magic was destroyed by KJ in 90' because tried to be a scorer

    And a hobbled Worthy still nearly matched Pippen's ppg in the 91' Finals - Magic had 3 teammates average 17+ in that series

    He simply can't win without goat scoring help like Kareem because he himself cannot carry the scoring load and therefore win with less help


    Love seeing you dance around that one.

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post


    Love seeing you dance around that one.

    Magic had 3 teammates get pippen-production in the 91' Finals (17-20 ppg)

    So as usual, Jordan was outgunned by superior scoring help but still won - Jordan made 6 Finals that way and won 6 Finals that way

    Otoh, Magic can't win without goat scoring help like Kareem because he himself cannot carry the scoring load and therefore win with less help like Worthy, Pippen or Pau

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Magic had 3 teammates get pippen-production in the 91' Finals (17-20 ppg)

    So as usual, Jordan was outgunned by superior scoring help but still won - Jordan made 6 Finals that way and won 6 Finals that way

    Otoh, Magic can't win without goat scoring help like Kareem because he himself cannot carry the scoring load and therefore win with less help like Worthy, Pippen or Pau
    They all 3 must have been as good as Pippen then.

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    They all 3 must have been as good as Pippen then.

    Pippen averaged 19 on 42% in 6 Finals with a range of 15-21 ppg, so Magic had 3 teammates that play at this level for the 91' Finals (pippen-caliber).

    And Pippen had the lowest peak capability - everyone's best was superior to Pippen's best.. So Pippen's best series was probably the 91' Finals, which was nothing compared to Worthy's 88' Finals (FMVP) or 87' ECF. (30 on 62%).

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Completely disregards Magic's playmaking abilities, but you know what's worse? You lying about stats again.

    Worthy averaged 23.6 ppg in '87 postseason, you rounded that up to 24.
    Magic averaged 21.8 ppg in '87 postseason (also dished out 12 apg), you rounded that down to 21.

    Shameful.
    3ball gonna blame this on faulty memory as usual.

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Pippen averaged 19 on 42% in 6 Finals with a range of 15-21 ppg, so Magic had 3 teammates that play at this level for the 91' Finals (pippen-caliber).

    And Pippen had the lowest peak capability - everyone's best was superior to Pippen's best.. So Pippen's best series was probably the 91' Finals, which was nothing compared to Worthy's 88' Finals (FMVP) or 87' ECF. (30 on 62%).
    Soooo...yes?

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    3ball logic, Alex English > Magic due to ppgz.

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    Soooo...yes?

    Jordan's cast was clearly outplayed in the 91' Finals and outscored in literally every series of Jordan's career except maybe 1

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    Default Re: Bird, Kobe, Hakeem and Magic. How do you rank them

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Jordan's cast was clearly outplayed in the 91' Finals and outscored in literally every series of Jordan's career except maybe 1
    Unfortunately for you all 5 games in 1991 finals are free on YouTube. Anyone can see that what you’re saying isn’t true.

    Lie about something no one will be able to know about.

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