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    Default 1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Team

    1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Teams all time.


    Despite winning an unheard of 72 games, Jordan did not in fact get unanimous MVP. He was 4 1st votes shy! Meanwhile Shaq and LeBron were 1 first place vote shy in 2000 and 2013 respectively despite winning less games.

    Meanwhile Curry wins 73 games in 2016 and gets unanimous.

    How is this possible?

    1996 roster:
    Jordan = All nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Pippen = all nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Rodman = all defensive 1st team.

    Toni kukoc = 6th man of the year.


    Find me a team with THREE all defensive 1st team players in starting lineup plus 2 all-nba 1st team players.

    Plus a 6th man of year.


    No other team in the entire 90s comes close to this. No dynasty spurs or warriors to compare to. Just 1 massively stacked team vs the rest.


    Only 2017 Warriors is superior in skill and talent from top to bottom.
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    Default Re: 1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Team

    Ron Harper, who was 31-32 at the time and averaged 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg & 0.7 bpg just two seasons earlier, was a mere role player on those Bulls. Let that sink in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    Ron Harper, who was 31-32 at the time and averaged 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg & 0.7 bpg just two seasons earlier, was a mere role player on those Bulls. Let that sink in.

    Harper was already a washed, 7 ppg player in 1995 before Jordan returned - he was worse than current Melo

    Btw, juggernaut scoring help is the top level of help because everyone in history needed it to win multiple chips - everyone in history needed teammates to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs.

    Only MJ won a bunch of chips with a garbage scoring help and a bunch of hustlers/defenders

    And it's easier for GM's to build a team of cheap hustlers/defenders than a team of star scorers - but again, only Jordan could win a multiple rings with hustlers/defenders, so only Jordan allowed a GM the luxury of finding cheap defenders rather than star scorers

    Ultimately, the 91' Lakers and 92' Blazers had far more scoring options AND better-ranked defenses, while the Suns and Sonics had more all-stars and nearly the same ranked defense.. Only the Jazz lacked better talent, but they had a 10-year organic brand that ragdolled Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Duncan/Robinson/Popovich

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Harper was already a washed, 7 ppg player in 1995 before Jordan returned - he was worse than current Melo

    Btw, juggernaut scoring help is the top level of help because everyone in history needed it to win multiple chips - everyone in history needed teammates to lead in scoring for entire playoff runs.

    Only MJ won a bunch of chips with a garbage scoring help and a bunch of hustlers/defenders

    And it's easier for GM's to build a team of cheap hustlers/defenders than a team of star scorers - but again, only Jordan could win a multiple rings with hustlers/defenders, so only Jordan allowed a GM the luxury of finding cheap defenders rather than star scorers
    Why was Jordan FOUR 1st place votes shy of unanimous MVP despite winning 72 games?

    That means he carried less of a load vs Curry 2016, Shaq 2000, or LeBron 2013.

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    Default Re: 1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Team

    About half a decade later, in the 2000 finals, Ron Harper was still more than a serviceable player, at the age of 36. His numbers in the 2000 finals were as good as Kobe's. And if you think I'm trolling, feel free to look at the overall numbers:



    Yet half a decade earlier, Harper was a mere role player on the Chicago Bulls. Let that sink in. But that's just how stacked they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    Why was Jordan FOUR 1st place votes shy of unanimous MVP despite winning 72 games?

    That means he carried less of a load vs Curry 2016, Shaq 2000, or LeBron 2013.

    Wade/Bosh....... Kobe..... Klay/Dray/Barnes/Bogut/Iggy


    ^^^ that's more help than Jordan ever had

    Heck, Harrison Barnes was the Warriors' 4th or 5th option but he would be 2nd option on many nights for the Bulls... Ditto Iggy, who was a FMVP that outperformed Pippen, yet he came off their bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Teams all time.


    Despite winning an unheard of 72 games, Jordan did not in fact get unanimous MVP. He was 4 1st votes shy! Meanwhile Shaq and LeBron were 1 first place vote shy in 2000 and 2013 respectively despite winning less games.

    Meanwhile Curry wins 73 games in 2016 and gets unanimous.

    How is this possible?

    1996 roster:
    Jordan = All nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Pippen = all nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Rodman = all defensive 1st team.

    Toni kukoc = 6th man of the year.


    Find me a team with THREE all defensive 1st team players in starting lineup plus 2 all-nba 1st team players.

    Plus a 6th man of year.


    No other team in the entire 90s comes close to this. No dynasty spurs or warriors to compare to. Just 1 massively stacked team vs the rest.


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    I agree, the greatest team of all-time with the greatest player of all-times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    I agree, the greatest team of all-time with the greatest player of all-times!
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Teams all time.


    Despite winning an unheard of 72 games, Jordan did not in fact get unanimous MVP. He was 4 1st votes shy! Meanwhile Shaq and LeBron were 1 first place vote shy in 2000 and 2013 respectively despite winning less games.

    Meanwhile Curry wins 73 games in 2016 and gets unanimous.

    How is this possible?

    1996 roster:
    Jordan = All nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Pippen = all nba 1st team. All defensive 1st team.
    Rodman = all defensive 1st team.

    Toni kukoc = 6th man of the year.


    Find me a team with THREE all defensive 1st team players in starting lineup plus 2 all-nba 1st team players.

    Plus a 6th man of year.


    No other team in the entire 90s comes close to this. No dynasty spurs or warriors to compare to. Just 1 massively stacked team vs the rest.


    Only 2017 Warriors is superior in skill and talent from top to bottom.
    Meltdown and damage control.

    The '96 Bulls were stacked, but the '11-'13 Heat and the '17-'18 Warriors were significantly more stacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    I agree, the greatest team of all-time with the greatest player of all-times!
    So we are in agreement that the Bulls were super team stacked head to toe with talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Wade/Bosh....... Kobe..... Klay/Dray/Barnes/Bogut/Iggy


    ^^^ that's more help than Jordan ever had

    Heck, Harrison Barnes was the Warriors' 4th or 5th option but he would be 2nd option on many nights for the Bulls... Ditto Iggy, who was a FMVP that outperformed Pippen, yet he came off their bench
    Wade did not make all-nba first team and LeBron never had 3 all defensive 1st team players in the starting lineup.

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    Default Re: 1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Team

    I'd say 2022 Lakers. They had 2 guys who won league mvp, a 3x DPOY and a scoring champion who won 3 olympic gold medals along with a top 3 player all time in PER in Anthony Davis who also made 1st team all nba and 1st team defensive.

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    Default Re: 1996 Bulls = Most Stacked Super Team of All Team

    '85 Lakers:

    - A super offensive trio in Magic, Kareem and Worthy. Playmaking, halfcourt game and elite transition finishing.
    - One of the best defensive players of the 80's in Cooper, and also a guy that could play backup PG to Magic.
    - McGee, McAdoo (former MVP) and Wilkes coming off the bench. Wilkes on his last legs but still useful.
    - Good rebounders and hustling big guys in Rambis and Kupchak (specially the first one).

    Overall, six players averaged +10 points per game throughout the season and two more came very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Point-Forward View Post
    '85 Lakers:

    - A super offensive trio in Magic, Kareem and Worthy. Playmaking, halfcourt game and elite transition finishing.
    - One of the best defensive players of the 80's in Cooper, and also a guy that could play backup PG to Magic.
    - McGee, McAdoo (former MVP) and Wilkes coming off the bench. Wilkes on his last legs but still useful.
    - Good rebounders and hustling big guys in Rambis and Kupchak (specially the first one).

    Overall, six players averaged +10 points per game throughout the season and two more came very close.
    Good observations. It would have been awesome if the 85 Lakers or 86 Celtics matched up against the 96 Bulls.

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