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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeroAntic View Post
    Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.
    So a 1st round loss would have saved his legacy? Fu**ing idiot alert

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    You Bronies are worse than morons.

    Ask any Olympian if they they'd rather have 1 gold medal or 3 silver. You wouldn't find a single one who'd take the silver.

    1 gold > 100 silver.

    6 gold > 4 gold.

    End of story. Bronie never came close to catching MJ. Truth hurts.
    Um. No one said Finals loss is better than Finals win. Full Tard.

    But we're saying 2nd place is better than 3rd, which is better than 4th, which is better than 8th, which is better than...

    T H I N K

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Um. No one said Finals loss is better than Finals win. Full Tard.

    But we're saying 2nd place is better than 3rd, which is better than 4th, which is better than 8th, which is better than...

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    Lebron faced a team lead by Rodney Stuckey in the first round when he had Dwade and Chris Bosh.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    1 chip is worth more a million runner ups. That tells you how shit a runner up is worth

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=459570

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Idol-Retired
    https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc200...ory?id=2568543

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...dleton-a-Title

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ence-interview

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...tter-currently

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...of-America-How

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-KG-Gold-Medal

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...los-Boozer-WCF

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...f-Devin-Booker

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...lly-played-for


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...xpected-to-win

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...n-is-the-FFOAT

    Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-5-0-or-higher

    Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Coming/page2


    Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Mode-ACTIVATED

    Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Playoffs/page3


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...all-time/page2
    Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


    Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...llen-vs-Lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-Suns-were-14
    Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html

    And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron.


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ullshit-roster
    He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

    Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...th-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head

    Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron


    Devin Booker broke Lebron
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ron&p=14500724


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...2#post14584482

    Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...in-2022-Season
    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/tri...021-2022-stats

    Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ge3&p=14503600


    How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...17-23-vs-Curry

    Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14426360


    Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ebron-and-Tmac
    Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

    Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



    LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...torm-is-coming

    https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports...e588b45e9.html


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...t-Lebron-James
    Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.

    http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa...statistic.html


    First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-the-playoffs


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14584371

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeroAntic View Post
    Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.
    you're just another drose stan hater. most bulls fans are haters. and most celtics fans. it makes sense.


    how many of you have actually seen lebron play in person? he might be the single most athletic player of all time over monsters like shaq and wilt...

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by kawhileonard2 View Post
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=459570

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Idol-Retired
    https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc200...ory?id=2568543

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...dleton-a-Title

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ence-interview

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...tter-currently

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...of-America-How

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-KG-Gold-Medal

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...los-Boozer-WCF

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...f-Devin-Booker

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...lly-played-for


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...xpected-to-win

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...n-is-the-FFOAT

    Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-5-0-or-higher

    Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Coming/page2


    Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Mode-ACTIVATED

    Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Playoffs/page3


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...all-time/page2
    Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


    Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...llen-vs-Lebron

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-Suns-were-14
    Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html

    And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron.


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ullshit-roster
    He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

    Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...th-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head

    Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron


    Devin Booker broke Lebron
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ron&p=14500724


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...2#post14584482

    Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...in-2022-Season
    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/tri...021-2022-stats

    Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ge3&p=14503600


    How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...17-23-vs-Curry

    Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14426360


    Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ebron-and-Tmac
    Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

    Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



    LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...torm-is-coming

    https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports...e588b45e9.html


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...t-Lebron-James
    Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.

    http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa...statistic.html


    First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-the-playoffs


    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14584371
    wow a 37 year old player struggled when his team didn't give him any support. what a surprise.


    24 year old lebron would've carried the lakers to the number seed in the west balling out every single night

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    So a 1st round loss would have saved his legacy? Fu**ing idiot alert
    You know the Bronies are in full desperation mode when they have to resort to finals losses to try to prop up their hero's tanking legacy.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Mic drop

    But only high IQ understand
    Only the retards are triggered by topics like this. Their arguments get spun like a pretzel contradicting themselves.

    To us high IQ basketball fans we just get a laugh out of it.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
    He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
    He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.
    If Tatum lost this game and got bounced, he would have avoided a potential loss in the finals which according to retards would be a negative to his legacy!

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Harden’s legacy is his disgusting homeless man’s beard, flopping on every contested 3, and losing in the playoffs.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
    He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.
    Tatum would have lost with HCA. Lebron lost with HCA 3x, Kobe 2x, MJ never.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Bronie logic: If you're the runner up a bunch of times, it's better than winning a championship a few times....because that's what the maths tell me.



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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    Bronie logic: If you're the runner up a bunch of times, it's better than winning a championship a few times....because that's what the maths tell me.


    So true. Imagine having to praise loser awards with a straight face because your favorite player has so many of them

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