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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?
    19 straight seasons >>>> 15 seasons in a 19yr span (non injury, chose to quit)

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Court View Post
    UTTER. DESPERATION.

    No, OP, sucking in the post season did not improve Harden's legacy.

    Just like not even making the postseason with a super team did not improve your hero Bronie's post season.

    I know these complex thoughts might blow your mind....
    you just called the 2022 lakers a superteam

    injured and non-playing AD plus malik monk and austin reaves a superteam

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    you just called the 2022 lakers a superteam

    injured and non-playing AD plus malik monk and austin reaves a superteam
    5 HOFers

    If y'all thought the '04 or '13 Lakers were a superteam, than the '22 team is one as well.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    5 HOFers

    If y'all thought the '04 or '13 Lakers were a superteam, than the '22 team is one as well.
    13 lakers were trash. 04 lakers choked but I wouldnt call them a superteam. shaq and kobe is enough to be a superteam so I guess it counts. every team lebron every played on was a superteam, because he's on the team.


    how did the malik monk austin reaves westbrook superteam do without leGOAT? if I remember correctly every single win was because of lebron. and all of those close losses the only player hooping was lebron while the rest of the team was letting scrubs like the jalen green rockets shit on them.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

    Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

    Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

    Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

    Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters
    dude you're not allowed to have an opinion any more. you've been exposed so many times that it's a joke.

    all of your arguments are based on false assumptions that elevate or diminish players based on the point that you're trying to make. what happened to all of the paragraphs that you made me read explaining how KG is definitively a better player than lebron?


    explain to me again how KG is hands down a better player than lebron.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ba11 View Post
    Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

    Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

    Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters
    even this post right here assumes that lebron underachieved because he lost in the finals to a better team. how did he underachieve by losing to the 2014 spurs and 2015 and 2017, 2018 warriors when he was the best player in every single series?


    mike never ran into a single team as good as any of those teams. please explain to me again how malone and stockton are equivalent to klay curry dray and kd.


    the only thing that a player can do is dominate his era and lebron was hands down the best in the league from 2009-2018 aka a FULL decade.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    buh buh 2014 lebron had dwade meanwhile wade played the series on one knee

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Can't save a legacy if you never had one to begin with.

    Unless you're talking about regular season legacy

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

    Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


    If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.
    Jordan winning 6 is better than Jordan winning 4. I can remember when I was about four years old being able to comprehend that 6 > 4. Which puts you Bronies on about a three-year-old's level intellectually.



    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?
    This point should be obvious....but the Bronies struggle with difficult things like math and logic.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoatest View Post
    jordon extremist alts getting absolutely DESTROYED.
    Their "logic" is the only one of its kind in all of sports. In what other universe is an olympian's resumé which consists 6 gold medals and 0 silver medals regarded higher than 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals?
    We got their ass shook

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

    Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


    If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.
    Mic drop

    But only high IQ understand

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?
    19 vs 15 is irrelevant. Play more, we don't reward quitters.

    If anything it's 4 vs 6.

    4 elite FMVPs vs 6 cracker jack 90s rings

    We win again.

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    Default Re: Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

    You Bronies are worse than morons.

    Ask any Olympian if they they'd rather have 1 gold medal or 3 silver. You wouldn't find a single one who'd take the silver.

    1 gold > 100 silver.

    6 gold > 4 gold.

    End of story. Bronie never came close to catching MJ. Truth hurts.

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