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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls View Post
    If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.
    If Pip didn't have a migraine, they could've won it all in 1990

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    33PPG on 43% FG and the game win clincher is still better then any Duncan finals outside of maybe 2003 but that's debatable

    Pippen had a bad back

    I'm taking 98 Jordan > any Duncan finals

    Even though that was probably jordan's 4th best finals

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawhi_Why_Not View Post
    33PPG on 43% FG and the game win clincher is still better then any Duncan finals outside of maybe 2003 but that's debatable

    Pippen had a bad back

    I'm taking 98 Jordan > any Duncan finals

    Even though that was probably jordan's 4th best finals
    LMAO

    A just turned 23 year-old Duncan (remember where jordon was at this age ) had a better finals than jordon's one-dimensional brickage of 1998 THE VERY NEXT YEAR.
    Duncan's 27.4 ppg on .537, 14.0 rpg and 2.2 bpg in 1999 manslaughter jordon's 1998.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    players from that era is scratching their head over how to grab an offensive rebound in todays league, as it seems to be so open with just one defender. what they failed to notice is that where as before it took more players to secure the defensive rebounding, no attention was paid as to where the players were facing when the shot was attempted.

    the rebounding efficiency has actually improved if you believe that how far away from the basket each players were when they secured the ball.

    todays league has a lot to do with always making sure you are closer to the basket on defense so you don't make any mental lapses.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spurs m8 View Post
    If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike
    but it doesn't make a man girly for riding a bike meant for girls, just that he might have a bad back.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller789 View Post
    If Ray Allen missed that shot, Lebron would be 3/10. Hypotheticals are plain stupid.
    0mg only 3!? Tied for 2nd most all time FMVP!? OH NO

    fu**ing idiot

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    33/4/2 on 42% = win

    Bran goes 33/12/9 or whatever in 2017 and loses.

    Finals competition in the 90s were a joke.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Ball View Post
    33/4/2 on 42% = win

    Bran goes 33/12/9 or whatever in 2017 and loses.

    Finals competition in the 90s were a joke.
    Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.
    Or maybe, he was just losing to the better team every season.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Or maybe, he was just losing to the better team every season.
    Talent doesn't always win you championships. You need chemistry and for your star player to be willing to sacrifice their numbers to elevate their teammates, which is what Jordan did in the 90s.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spurs m8 View Post
    If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike
    Out of all of the things that have wheels you choose bike?

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.
    How many decades will it take foe these people to grasp that the triangle ofense is not designed for big assist numbers. And why would jordan fight to take rebounds away from rodman? Stupid af

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2much_knowledge View Post
    How many decades will it take foe these people to grasp that the triangle ofense is not designed for big assist numbers. And why would jordan fight to take rebounds away from rodman? Stupid af
    And he was 35 years old and had played all 82 games at ~39 mpg that season and had to do more with Pippen missing half of it and also getting injured in the Finals. And it's easier to put up numbers in today's era as teams play smaller & at a higher pace, which shouldn't be ignored either.

    Jordan in '98 averaged 44.5 points per 100 possessions in the Playoffs. That would be 2nd highest for Bran's entire Playoff career and 2 points per 100 higher than Bran's '18 Playoff run. MJ also led the POs in WS/BPM/VORP/RAPM and had a much higher DRAPM than Pippen.

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    Default Re: How did Jordan win FMVP in 1998 averaging 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and 43% FG?

    by defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load) more than anyone ever had prior

    everyone in history needed equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for entire playoff runs, so they weren't always facing maximum defensive attention.. Any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to Jordan, who carried the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

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