Lebron is clearly done and stuck on 4, so 3ball wins this thing and was right

[Spurs m8]

4?

That's a stretch lol

[3ba11]

It is not.

True, oftentimes they attract MORE defensive attention, especially in the clutch

It is not.

PLAYOFF PPG

87' Worthy..... 23.6
87' Magic...... 18.6

86' McHale.... 24.9
86' Bird.......... 25.1

16' Kyrie........ 25.2
16' Lebron'..... 26.2

11' Wade........ 24.5
11' Lebron...... 23.7

^^^ At some point in everyone's playoff career, they had equal-scoring teammates to attract equal-defensive attention, and therefore weren't facing maximum defensive coverage - any period without max defensive coverage are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who faced max defensive coverage for his entire career by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run

[ShawkFactory]

Repeating yourself doesn’t turn a non-fact into one.

[3ba11]

Repeating yourself doesn’t turn a non-fact into one.

It's true in theory

And it was said that way so the concept of maximum defensive attention could be easily understood.

MJ faced maximum defensive attention for his entire career by never having an elite or comparable-scoring teammate, while everyone else in history had parts of their career with equal-scoring partners that garnered comparable defensive attention, thus inflating those stats compared to MJ's full career of facing maximum defensive attention

[ShawkFactory]

It's true in theory

And it was said that way so the concept of maximum defensive attention could be easily understood.

MJ faced maximum defensive attention for his entire career by never having an elite or comparable-scoring teammate, while everyone else in history had parts of their career with equal-scoring partners that garnered comparable defensive attention, thus inflating those stats compared to MJ's full career of facing maximum defensive attention

Aaaaaand there it is

[3ba11]

Aaaaaand there it is

Exactly, I'm right.. thank you. I'm surprised you're celebrating it

Everyone in history has inflated stats compared to MJ by virtue of spending parts of their career with equal-scoring teammates that reduced the defensive attention they faced..

Any period without facing maximum defensive attention as the only elite scoring threat are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who always had the toughest path to stats by facing max defensive attention for his entire career (no elite or equal-scoring partners)

[ShawkFactory]

It’s just funny because by saying “it’s true in theory” proves once and for all what we all knew: that you’re hypotheticals or arguments or whatever the fvck you want to call them don’t deal with reality.

You just outed yourself bro.

[3ba11]

It’s just funny because by saying “it’s true in theory” proves once and for all what we all knew: that you’re hypotheticals or arguments or whatever the fvck you want to call them don’t deal with reality.

You just outed yourself bro.

You've passed the initial level of hoop knowledge by understanding the theory, so now you can better understand the actual games more than the Shannon Sharpe's of the world (media).

So congrats are in order.. You're actually doing better than Bron, who skipped college (the fundamentals and theory, aka facing a pure zone and developing the jumpshooting & ball movement fundamentals to beat it)

Ultimately, you now understand that MJ's stats are the BASELINE - everyone else's are inflated at some point by having equal-scoring partners to reduce the defensive attention they faced.. Only MJ passed the ultimate test by facing max defensive attention for his entire career

[ShawkFactory]

“It’s true in theory” is what people say before something has been put into practice. Basketball has been played for a hundred years so that statement doesn’t apply. You’re just full of shit

[3ba11]

“It’s true in theory” is what people say before something has been put into practice. Basketball has been played for a hundred years so that statement doesn’t apply. You’re just full of shit

^^^ weird reaction to successfully educating yourself and increasing your understanding but okay..

[HunterSThompson]

No Pip

pippens a career long sidekick and was never really much more than that so saying "no pip no chip" isn't even an insult

had pippen won a finals mvp like wade or averaged 25 plus in the finals like kyrie and Davis or been a league mvp without MJ like Westbrook was without lebron then you might have something

[ShawkFactory]

^^^ weird reaction to successfully educating yourself and increasing your understanding but okay..

Quite the opposite. I’ve been watching basketball for a very long time so your elementary bullshit doesn’t fly

[Baller789]

pippens a career long sidekick and was never really much more than that so saying "no pip no chip" isn't even an insult

had pippen won a finals mvp like wade or averaged 25 plus in the finals like kyrie and Davis or been a league mvp without MJ like Westbrook was without lebron then you might have something

This.

They are just regurgitating the same $h!t because it's catchy.

[TheGoatest]

It's hilarious that some think 4 rings/4 Finals MVPs on 3 different teams/coaches in 2 conferences isn't enough to be GOAT.
If Jordan's 2 extra rings are the difference maker to put him over LeBron, then how badly do the 5 extra rings Bill Russell has over Jordan obliterate the argument that Jordan is the GOAT?
Now sit back and enjoy the goal post moving show...

[Baller789]

It's hilarious that some think 4 rings/4 Finals MVPs on 3 different teams/coaches in 2 conferences isn't enough to be GOAT.
If Jordan's 2 extra rings are the difference maker to put him over LeBron, then how badly do the 5 extra rings Bill Russell has over Jordan obliterate the argument that Jordan is the GOAT?
Now sit back and enjoy the goal post moving show...

Russell's championships with one team does blow everyone else's out of the water.
Youre saying the GOAT achievement is to win as many rings with as many teams.

Now who's moving goal posts?