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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    You can definitely compare. Your assuming bron has more miles because he played more seasons at the same span but it's a flawed way of thinking. Mj had way more practices. He also had way harder practices. He also didn't take 2 years off in 93 and 94 he wad busting his off every day trying to succeed in baseball. Age here is our best comparison so we'll see how good bron is at 39. My guess is like every other age comparison bron will just be slightly worse than mj.
    Nothing you say will change the fact that playing a season of double A baseball, as an outfielder, can compare to making a title run in the NBA. Including Olympic play during James' 8yr Finals run, he avg. like 96 or 97 games per season. 97 games in a baseball season is a walk in the park

    There's a reason why MJ had a bar put in the team bus he bought and restored.

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    How is this a comparison? You're comparing a player 3 years removed from the NBA, at the age of 39-40, in the peak of the defensive era of league history.

    MJ was something like 25/6/5/2 prior to his injury when he returned and had his team in playoff contention, at the age of 39, to LeBron, who is not 3 years removed, putting up 25/5/6/2 at the age of 37, now. The league averaged 95.5 PPG during the 2001-02 season. The league is currently averaging 107 PPG now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsNY View Post
    How is this a comparison? You're comparing a player 3 years removed from the NBA, at the age of 39-40, in the peak of the defensive era of league history.

    MJ was something like 25/6/5/2 prior to his injury when he returned and had his team in playoff contention, at the age of 39, to LeBron, who is not 3 years removed, putting up 25/5/6/2 at the age of 37, now. The league averaged 95.5 PPG during the 2001-02 season. The league is currently averaging 107 PPG now.
    So you wanna give MJ the injury excuse using pre-injury numbers, but don't wanna concede that LeBron has also been injured this year.

    And Wizards Jordan was the lowest efficiency volume scorer in NBA History (20+ ppg)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawhileonard2 View Post
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...lly-played-for)

    List of who beat Jordan, Lebron and Kobe in a tournament setting
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...nament-setting


    Giannis just destroyed LeBron’s entire career and legacy with a single quote
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...a-single-quote


    Lebron with Shaq - 2nd round exit, Giannis with Middleton a Title
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...dleton-a-Title


    Giannis Finals is greater than Anything Lebron ever did.
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ebron-ever-did


    Giannis just blasted those who join super teams in post conference interview
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ence-interview

    Devin Booker Vs Lebron James - who is better currently?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...tter-currently


    Devin Booker put up 47 his playoff career high on Lebron .....
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron


    https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401358780


    Lebron won 2 bronze medals for the United States of America. How?
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...of-America-How

    Why did he embarrass the United States of America losing to inferior competition with another top 5 player all time on the squad and other guys who won league mvp in the NBA?

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...cs/years/2004/
    https://www.basketball-reference.com...-08-27-USA-ARG

    http://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006...ory?id=2568543



    Lebron with Tim Duncan = Bronze Medal in Olympics, Vince with KG = Gold Medal
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-KG-Gold-Medal


    Lebron with Carlos Boozer - No Playoffs, Deron Williams with Carlos Boozer - WCF.
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...los-Boozer-WCF



    Lebron stacking the deck in 2022 because he is afraid of Devin Booker
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...f-Devin-Booker




    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...xpected-to-win

    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...n-is-the-FFOAT

    Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-5-0-or-higher
    MJ was much better.

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Pip' N Rodman View Post
    So you wanna give MJ the injury excuse using pre-injury numbers, but don't wanna concede that LeBron has also been injured this year.

    And Wizards Jordan was the lowest efficiency volume scorer in NBA History (20+ ppg)
    The injury comparison isn't the same. LeBron wasn't sidelined for a month with a worse injury. In addition, he wasn't away from the game for 3 years, in the peak of the defensive era, on a bad team, in a league that averaged 12 PPG fewer than this year.

    Is LeBron better now than MJ when he returned? Sure. But again, context is key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsNY View Post
    The injury comparison isn't the same. LeBron wasn't sidelined for a month with a worse injury. In addition, he wasn't away from the game for 3 years, in the peak of the defensive era, on a bad team, in a league that averaged 12 PPG fewer than this year.

    Is LeBron better now than MJ when he returned? Sure. But again, context is key.
    So then compare 35 year old LeBron (2019-2020) to 35 year old MJ (1997-1998) if you don't want to talk about Wizards MJ

    Even though LeBron had 4 more years of wear and tear and played 10,000+ more minutes, he was still clearly the better player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip' N Rodman View Post
    So then compare 35 year old LeBron (2019-2020) to 35 year old MJ (1997-1998) if you don't want to talk about Wizards MJ

    Even though LeBron had 4 more years of wear and tear and played 10,000+ more minutes, he was still clearly the better player
    Wear and tear is one thing, but MJ was a machine at that age, too. You're also not factoring that he played professional baseball and had three years of college.

    MJ played all 82 games and averaged nearly 39 minutes a game in his final season with Chicago. He put up 29/6/4/2 on 47% in again, one of the slowest paced and greatest defensive eras. Not to mention, he was All-Defensive 1st Team. LeBron was not the better player.

    2020 was a free for all with lax perimeter rules. Again, how is this not contextualized?

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsNY View Post
    How is this a comparison? You're comparing a player 3 years removed from the NBA, at the age of 39-40, in the peak of the defensive era of league history.

    MJ was something like 25/6/5/2 prior to his injury when he returned and had his team in playoff contention, at the age of 39, to LeBron, who is not 3 years removed, putting up 25/5/6/2 at the age of 37, now. The league averaged 95.5 PPG during the 2001-02 season. The league is currently averaging 107 PPG now.
    So MJ was out of shape when he played for the Wiz?

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    So MJ was out of shape when he played for the Wiz?
    Adjust for pace and compare the numbers. Youre just deflecting because you only do troll arguments.

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    Nothing you say will change the fact that playing a season of double A baseball, as an outfielder, can compare to making a title run in the NBA. Including Olympic play during James' 8yr Finals run, he avg. like 96 or 97 games per season. 97 games in a baseball season is a walk in the park

    There's a reason why MJ had a bar put in the team bus he bought and restored.
    It depends on the players dude. Mj is a maniac. His work ethic is as legendary as his determination. I would agree if we weren't talking about mj but mj was apparently putting in a full day of training on game days and non game days. Bron isn't doing anything close to that. So it isn't like we're comparing 2 hrs of baseball training to 2 hrs of basketball training. We're comparing 2 hrs of basketball to 10 hrs of baseball.

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    I love it when a bunch of couch potatoes on a forum dismiss someone playing a professional sport for over a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankok8 View Post
    I love it when a bunch of couch potatoes on a forum dismiss someone playing a professional sport for over a year.
    Troll: MJ was retired for 2 years. He took a break!
    Sane person: He played another sport and at a professional level.
    Troll: In other words, he was well rested.

    A 'coach potato' is a great way to describe them. I prefer morons.

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    Lebron - zero MVP's and zero All-Defensive Teams in his 30's

    MJ - Age 35 league MVP, All-Defensive 1st Team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    Lebron - zero MVP's and zero All-Defensive Teams in his 30's

    MJ - Age 35 league MVP, All-Defensive 1st Team.

    Damn this can't be true?

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    Default Re: Current LeBron is a much better player than Wizards Jordan

    MJ Stan’s have all the excuses

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