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Re: Japan Ivermectin
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Burning Spirit!
Re: Japan Ivermectin
https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...or-ivermectin/
The second part about ivermectin is a misinterpretation of a statement made back in August 2021 by Dr Haruo Ozaki, the chairman of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association, who recommended the use of ivermectin. However, it looks like higher authorities did not take this advice since ivermectin is still not listed by the Japanese government as an approved medication to treat COVID-19.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
If you look at the first image, and watch the video, the point is that it was allowed as a treatment, can be prescribe without restriction, and that doctors can inform people about it. (Versus the US, where prescribing it can cost a doctor greatly.)
What you're linking and talking about is a "Fact check" that's pretending to fact check an idea that Japan ditched all other treatments and the vaccines for Ivermectin.
Your link would make sense for this thread if the thread was about Japan completely halting the vaccines 100% for Ivermectin.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by jstern
If you look at the first image, and watch the video, the point is that it was allowed as a treatment, can be prescribe without restriction, and that doctors can inform people about it. (Versus the US, where prescribing it can cost a doctor greatly.)
What you're linking and talking about is a "Fact check" that's pretending to fact check an idea that Japan ditched all other treatments and the vaccines for Ivermectin.
Your link would make sense for this thread if the thread was about Japan completely halting the vaccines 100% for Ivermectin.
However, it looks like higher authorities did not take this advice since ivermectin is still not listed by the Japanese government as an approved medication to treat COVID-19.
https://www.pmda.go.jp/english/about-pmda/0002.html
Ivermectin is not in the list of approved medications as of November 2021, so it isn't officially allowed yet.
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Burning Spirit!
Re: Japan Ivermectin
The original source of misinformation, from a far-right radio host (as usual) and a convicted felon Hal Turner.
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...most-overnight
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
God, you're dumb.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by jstern
God, you're dumb.
Is this the best response you can make? Usually you can make them up for more words than this
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
Is this the best response you can make? Usually you can make them up for more words than this
You're not paying attention. The video at 1:02 says that if you Google it Japan has not approved it as official treatment for Covid 19. As you can read from the first image, that chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki publicly encouraged doctors to prescribe and to give patients informed consent about Ivermectin. And for people to also buy it from India. And then the cases dramatically dropped. Coincidence or not. That is the question.
The question you should be asking yourself is if Ivermectin is a possible treatment for this Covid, or if all these health officials from other countries fell for Q Annon stuff in the United States, or whatever CNN claims is misinformation.
But like that Blade guy, you proceed forward as if the thread is about Japan ditching the vaccines and replacing them with Ivermectin.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by jstern
Now I see why Axe is always talking about it.
Meanwhile, in the US a doctor can lose their license for prescribing Ivermectin for the flu.
Interesting but it dosn't look like a controlled study so other factors could come into play. At the very least though it's compelling enough that it should spark more interest and studies on ivermectin although i highly doubt big pharma would allow that.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by jstern
You're not paying attention. The video at 1:02 says that if you Google it Japan has not approved it as official treatment for Covid 19. As you can read from the first image, that chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, Haruo Ozaki publicly encouraged doctors to prescribe and to give patients informed consent about Ivermectin. And for people to also buy it from India. And then the cases dramatically dropped. Coincidence or not. That is the question.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ja...covid-vaccine/
The Haruo Ozaki guy mentioning ivermectin doesn't mean Japan government will approve the use of it, which it hasn't yet.
However, it is true that Ozaki is credited with saying, to some extent, that more attention should be given to ivermectin as a potential treatment. During a news briefing on Feb. 9, he suggested that doctors should be allowed to prescribe off-label ivermectin and the anti-inflammatory drug dexamethasone. On Aug. 23, he said that it was “necessary to thoroughly study the clinical trials, but it seems that we are at a stage where it is okay to have the patient get an informed consent, and get permission to use it.”
If ivermectin has clinically proven that it works, they will let doctors use it, but it hasn't. The reasons of cases dropping is more of other factors than the medicine that hasn't been approved in Japan for 9 months.
As for India:
https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/s...ot-been-proven
India stopped recommending the use of ivermectin for the management of the virus in September, citing a lack of scientific evidence of its benefits. Researchers at the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) did not find enough evidence for Ivermectin and Hydroxycholoquine as potential therapeutics targeted against COVID-19.*
* https://www.precisionvaccinations.co...and-ivermectin
The question you should be asking yourself is if Ivermectin is a possible treatment for this Covid, or if all these health officials from other countries fell for Q Annon stuff in the United States, or whatever CNN claims is misinformation.
But like that Blade guy, you proceed forward as if the thread is about Japan ditching the vaccines and replacing them with Ivermectin.
Sure, ivermectin work in human being as treatments for other diseases, but it hasn't proven among medical peers that it really works as a treatment for COVID-19 enough of many countries yet, as the "mainstream media" you folks often mention have reported. Plus, well-misinformed folks did put themselves in danger by using off-the-shelf ivermectin for animal as they were bought out of many stores in many places, endangering themselves.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-owners-covid
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
Japan is now 76% vaccinated from a mere 3.5% before Olympics. Never had any mandated lockdown either. They have one of the best Covid approach. America's death rate from Covid is 233.8 deaths per 100,000 people. Japan's is just 14.52,
America's death rate from Covid is 233.8 deaths per 100,000 people. Japan's is just 14.52
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by theman93
hOrSe pAsTe!!
It is too easy to mislead sheep. Comically easy... just give them a buzz word and stigma to apply and they'll run full sail with it.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by Rooster
Japan is now 76% vaccinated from a mere 3.5% before Olympics. Never had any mandated lockdown either. They have one of the best Covid approach. America's death rate from Covid is 233.8 deaths per 100,000 people. Japan's is just 14.52,
America's death rate from Covid is 233.8 deaths per 100,000 people. Japan's is just 14.52
They did have a state of emergency in highly populated areas, but that's about it. They do monitor the pandemic very well and haven't really shut anything down but limiting caps and putting regulations on events and places. Medical mask wearing in public has also been a thing in Japan for a long time before the pandemic and people there just tighten the habit up a bit.
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Re: Japan Ivermectin
Originally Posted by BurningHammer
They did have a state of emergency in highly populated areas, but that's about it. They do monitor the pandemic very well and haven't really shut anything down but limiting caps and putting regulations on events and places. Medical mask wearing in public has also been a thing in Japan for a long time before the pandemic and people there just tighten the habit up a bit.
South Korea also did manage it well without any mandatory lockdown. Their first Covid case was simultaneously with us . They were making 100 K test kits per day while we are making excuses. First outbreak on the Church- over 200 K of people tested and positives cases were quarantined. Contract tracing for travelers etc were implemented. Lesson learned. If the R2-R4 is good indication, preventative measures like this should be strongly encouraged than going to the extreme measures like lockdown. Hoping it will never happen again though in this lifetime.
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