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    Default It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retired..

    before losing to Hakeem/Drexler and Shaq/Kobe respectfully..

    What an amazing career for the goat . 8 chips in 10 seasons

    And 99' would've been perfect for him just like the bubble was for AD/Lebron

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Your trolling ideas are getting weaker. Front office might want to hire your replacement.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_..._id2=jordami01

    Hakeem's Rockets had a winning record against Jordan's Bulls despite the fact that Jordan clearly had the better supporting casts. I wouldn't guarantee anything in 94.

    On top of that, you want to talk about him beating rookie Duncan and the tail end of Robinson? Maybe, maybe not. The Bulls were clearly declining. I would bet on them losing both in 94 and 99.

    Also OP is a troll.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    If he plays full seasons in 94 and 95 he has no gas left in the tank for 96-98

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer View Post
    If he plays full seasons in 94 and 95 he has no gas left in the tank for 96-98
    This. They DEF lose in ‘98 when they were clearly running on fumes

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_..._id2=jordami01

    Hakeem's Rockets had a winning record against Jordan's Bulls despite the fact that Jordan clearly had the better supporting casts. I wouldn't guarantee anything in 94.

    On top of that, you want to talk about him beating rookie Duncan and the tail end of Robinson? Maybe, maybe not. The Bulls were clearly declining. I would bet on them losing both in 94 and 99.

    Also OP is a troll.
    I could see the Bulls losing in 1999 to the Spurs considering Pippen's and Rodman's injuries that season when they left the Bulls. And MJ would have conceivably declined some as well. In fact I'd say making the finals in 1999 would be very doable but winning the title over the Spurs would be difficult.

    1994 I can't really see the Rockets being favored over the Bulls. Hakeem would torch them but that team wouldn't have enough firepower. That Rockets team got taken to 7 games by both the Suns and Knicks. They were a 58-win +4.19 SRS team. They weren't that good. A healthy Bulls team with Jordan/Pippen/Grant fourpeats in 1994 IMO.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by dankok8 View Post
    I could see the Bulls losing in 1999 to the Spurs considering Pippen's and Rodman's injuries that season when they left the Bulls. And MJ would have conceivably declined some as well. In fact I'd say making the finals in 1999 would be very doable but winning the title over the Spurs would be difficult.

    1994 I can't really see the Rockets being favored over the Bulls. Hakeem would torch them but that team wouldn't have enough firepower. That Rockets team got taken to 7 games by both the Suns and Knicks. They were a 58-win +4.19 SRS team. They weren't that good. A healthy Bulls team with Jordan/Pippen/Grant fourpeats in 1994 IMO.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1993.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls 2 out of 3 times they met in 1992.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1991.

    Hakeem owned those Bulls. Straight up point blank period.

    This is why the very concept of "best" is asinine when talking about a team sport and hell even 1 v 1 sports... team dynamics, matchups & etc are far deeper concepts than we give them credit for.

    What does it say if a guy can beat 100 guys in boxing and then loses to the same one guy 5x in a row? And if this same guy that won 5x in a row lost to the other 100? Who is the best? None of it means anything.

    Best is an arbitrary and lazy term for people who are unwilling to accept that none of this matters. All of our discussions are nothing but bullshit entertainment.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1993.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls 2 out of 3 times they met in 1992.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1991.

    Hakeem owned those Bulls. Straight up point blank period.

    This is why the very concept of "best" is asinine when talking about a team sport and hell even 1 v 1 sports... team dynamics, matchups & etc are far deeper concepts than we give them credit for.

    What does it say if a guy can beat 100 guys in boxing and then loses to the same one guy 5x in a row? And if this same guy that won 5x in a row lost to the other 100? Who is the best? None of it means anything.

    Best is an arbitrary and lazy term for people who are unwilling to accept that none of this matters. All of our discussions are nothing but bullshit entertainment.
    He doesn't understand that.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    There is no way Bulls are beating the Rockets in 94. And it's the same reason in regards to why the Cavaliers didn't beat Orlando in 09: matchups. Bulls had no one who could realistically stop Hakeem from doing whatever he wanted. The Rockets would have been the first finals opponents the Bulls ever had who could dominate them inside. And the Rockets were a constant problem for the Bulls in the regular season too. There's a reason Jordan hated playing against them.

    Of course, 3ball didn't watch basketball at the time, so how could you expect him to know that?

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Kobe never 3-peated without shaq.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by eliteballer View Post
    If he plays full seasons in 94 and 95 he has no gas left in the tank for 96-98

    This idea that he would be too tired and therefore not play due to fatigue in his prime.... is preposterous

    If he lost to Barkley in 93', he would never have retired.. He only retired because his unprecedented dominance and winning gave him the luxury of retiring on top.. But he was still physically capable of playing jfc...
    Last edited by 3ba11; 11-08-2021 at 09:58 PM.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintzFury13 View Post
    There is no way Bulls are beating the Rockets in 94. And it's the same reason in regards to why the Cavaliers didn't beat Orlando in 09: matchups. Bulls had no one who could realistically stop Hakeem from doing whatever he wanted. The Rockets would have been the first finals opponents the Bulls ever had who could dominate them inside. And the Rockets were a constant problem for the Bulls in the regular season too. There's a reason Jordan hated playing against them.

    Of course, 3ball didn't watch basketball at the time, so how could you expect him to know that?
    They also had Vernon Maxwell who intimidated Jordan. It was well constructed to beat the Bulls

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1993.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls 2 out of 3 times they met in 1992.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1991.

    Hakeem owned those Bulls. Straight up point blank period.

    This is why the very concept of "best" is asinine when talking about a team sport and hell even 1 v 1 sports... team dynamics, matchups & etc are far deeper concepts than we give them credit for.

    What does it say if a guy can beat 100 guys in boxing and then loses to the same one guy 5x in a row? And if this same guy that won 5x in a row lost to the other 100? Who is the best? None of it means anything.

    Best is an arbitrary and lazy term for people who are unwilling to accept that none of this matters. All of our discussions are nothing but bullshit entertainment.
    Regular season isn't indicative of anything concrete. The only reason it's focused now is because they never met and it's a good "what if".

    Point is in a playoff series you get to hone in and even though Hakeem was unstoppable, the problem would be who can make the up the difference on the wing with Jordan, and the answer would be that there is no answer. Jordan was so elite defensively that you couldn't even run plays on his side of the court. They called him Black Cat for a reason.

    You can call it matchups all you want, but there's a reason why the Rockets couldn't get out of the West, they had very real flaws that the Bulls could exploit.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1993.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls 2 out of 3 times they met in 1992.
    The Rockets beat the Bulls both times they met in 1991.

    Hakeem owned those Bulls. Straight up point blank period.

    This is why the very concept of "best" is asinine when talking about a team sport and hell even 1 v 1 sports... team dynamics, matchups & etc are far deeper concepts than we give them credit for.

    What does it say if a guy can beat 100 guys in boxing and then loses to the same one guy 5x in a row? And if this same guy that won 5x in a row lost to the other 100? Who is the best? None of it means anything.

    Best is an arbitrary and lazy term for people who are unwilling to accept that none of this matters. All of our discussions are nothing but bullshit entertainment.
    Quote Originally Posted by SaintzFury13
    There is no way Bulls are beating the Rockets in 94. And it's the same reason in regards to why the Cavaliers didn't beat Orlando in 09: matchups. Bulls had no one who could realistically stop Hakeem from doing whatever he wanted. The Rockets would have been the first finals opponents the Bulls ever had who could dominate them inside. And the Rockets were a constant problem for the Bulls in the regular season too. There's a reason Jordan hated playing against them.
    Those are regular season games guys.

    Besides Hakeem hardly owned the Bulls offensively in these matchups.

    Jan 3, 1991 20 points
    March 25, 1991 13 points
    January 25, 1992 17 points
    January 30, 1992 24 points
    December 11, 1992 28 points
    January 28, 1993 18 points

    Hakeem averaged 20 ppg over those six regular season games... Bulls in 1994 had Horace, Longley and Cartwright to throw at Hakeem and a swarming team defense. Great centers in the 90's like Shaq, Ewing etc. hardly ever went off on the Bulls either.

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    Default Re: It's amazing that the GOAT would've 4-peated twice in 94' & 99' if he never retir

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Kobe never 3-peated without shaq.
    So true.

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