89' MJ beat the #1 SRS team with 15 on 40% from 2nd option - greatest carry-job ever?

[3ball]

3ball logic: Jordan's by far the GOAT, no human has ever come close to him. And Pippen's a bum who's barely a top 150 caliber talent. Yet Jordan beating a team with a sub Pippen caliber player as their leading scorer is the GOAT accomplishment

The 89' Cavs > 07' Pistons or 18' Celtics

^^^ based on wins, SRS, net rating, preseason odds, everything

So Jordan led a low seed and undecorated cast of role players over a better opponent than Lebron ever beat in the East, while Lebron needed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes just to make the playoffs

3ball logic: Jordan's by far the GOAT, no human has ever come close to him. And Pippen's a bum who's barely a top 150 caliber talent. Yet Jordan beating a team with a sub Pippen caliber player as their leading scorer is the GOAT accomplishment

Jordan beat the #1 SRS Cavs and numerous top 5 SRS teams with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (carry-jobs against a good teams), while Lebron has zero carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing.. (we already know that he can't handle the additional jumpshooting required of tough carry-jobs and infact avoids contested jumpers)

Btw, only Lebron lost to 1-star teams (09', 11')... Only Lebron lost as the favorite (09-11' and 14')... Only Lebron lost with super-teams (14', 17')... Only Lebron lost by record amount (14', 18')... Don't compare this bum to Jordan

[Axe]

PLAYOFFS

13' Wade...'.. 18.7 PER.. 0.105 ws/48.. 3.1 BPM.. 1.0 VORP
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 2.0 BPM.. 0.8 VORP

14' Wade...'.. 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


Per 100 Possessions

14' Wade...'.. 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg



TLDR: From 2013-2016, Wade had the same PER, WS/48, scoring, efficiency and assists as prime Pippen:. People were simply disappointed that he fell from "Flash" Wade to Pippen-level (wade's assists were actually depressed under lebron, but otherwise Wade had previously been a bigger assist guy than pippen)

Trump in his younger years was a handsome man

[Shooter]

Let me get this straight.

After 3 years of 1-9 and zero 1st round wins it took:
Jordan, Pippen, Grant, & Oakley

Just to beat 21 ppg Mark Price?

SHUT IT DOWN

[3ball]

The 89' Cavs > 07' Pistons or 18' Celtics

^^^ based on wins, SRS, all-stars, net rating, preseason odds, everything

So Jordan led a low seed and undecorated cast of role players over a better opponent than Lebron ever beat in the East, while Lebron needed high seeds and teammates with all-star resumes just to make the playoffs




Jordan beat the #1 SRS Cavs and numerous top 5 SRS teams with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick (carry-jobs against a good teams), while Lebron has zero carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing.. (we already know that he can't handle the additional jumpshooting required of tough carry-jobs and infact avoids contested jumpers)

Btw, only Lebron lost to 1-star teams (09', 11')... Only Lebron lost as the favorite (09-11' and 14')... Only Lebron lost with super-teams (14', 17')... Only Lebron lost by record amount (14', 18')... Don't compare this bum to Jordan

SouBeach on his bike

[Honor Boost]

That's why he is the greatest

[kawhileonard2]

That's why he is the greatest

This! Also never won bronze for America nor lost with HCA.

[And1AllDay]

Let me get this straight.

After 3 years of 1-9 and zero 1st round wins it took:
Jordan, Pippen, Grant, & Oakley

Just to beat 21 ppg Mark Price?

1st post slays just hit different

wrap it up

[Ainosterhaspie]

Beating regular season overachieving ensemble casts is not a particularly impressive achievement. Such teams are routinely exposed in the playoffs. As mentioned earlier, this is similar to LeBron sweeping the four all-star 2015 Hawks with JR what's the score Smith as his best help.