Clyde Drexler or Jimmy Butler?

[kawhileonard2]

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Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc200...ory?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...dleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ence-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...tter-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...los-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...f-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...lly-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...xpected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...n-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...s-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...llen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...th-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...o-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...2#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/tri...021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ge3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...ebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...torm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports...e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...t-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa...statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14584371

[2much_knowledge]

Would Jimmy have a 4 point, 1-10 shooting playoff game in his prime?

https://www.basketball-reference.com...005170SAS.html

Would Drexler have a 47 point, 9 rebound, 8 assist, 4 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover elimination game?

Jimmy is better. This game confirms it. A player who isn't even an all-NBA selection in today's league is better than jordon's main competition at the shooting guard position. Let that sink in.

" this game confirms it" spoken like the true prisoner of the moment you are. I literally entered this thread to see if someone said this. No surprise it was this fool lol

[RRR3]

Banned

[SATAN]

Banned

[plowking]

Clyde would avg 35 points in today's league. Jamal Murray has multiple 50 points playoff games. Let them sink in.

Shit like this... You're an asshat if you truly believe this.

Yeah bro... basketball is just getting worse. Players are getting worse. Before was better. Just like how every sport has regressed. Not like 100m times have come down. Or swimming times have come down. Or how powerlifters are stronger now? Or how Olympic lifters are stronger than ever.

Nah man. Basketball is the only sport getting worse. And Clyde Drexler would average 40. **** 35.

You don't have to like the product the game is today. But you're deadset stupid if you think players are worse. Just about every player on the court can do 3 fold what players back 30 years ago could.

And Jimmy Butler>Clyde.

[Round Mound]

Clyde was the better athlete: driver, dunker, finisher etc but Butler is impressing me alot. He is probably a better defender than Clyde.

[plowking]

Clyde was the better athlete: driver, dunker, finisher etc but Butler is impressing me alot. He is probably a better defender than Clyde.

[TheGoatest]

" this game confirms it" spoken like the true prisoner of the moment you are. I literally entered this thread to see if someone said this. No surprise it was this fool lol

Oddly enough, you didn't seem to be anywhere near as upset about being a prisoner of the moment when this thread was bumped in anti-Jimmy fashion after Jimmy had a bad game.

[WhiteKyrie]

Career Jimmy - 18/5/4 - 690 games
Career Drexler - 20/6/6 - 1086 games

Jimmy is the better defender and possibly better peak player (maybe) but his career numbers will dip. Clyde def so far has had the better career in totality.

Peak 8 year stretch

Jimmy - 21/6/5
Drexler - 23/7/6

Pretty arguable tbh. Especially considering Drexler played on some stacked teams relative to era and Jimmy is def the better defender.

And just remember the 2020 NBA Finals matchup of LeBron vs Jimmy

Jimmy - 26/8/10 on 55%
LeBron - 30/12/9 on 59%

That’s a duel right there. Almost equal levels of production at the same positional matchup. A stand still almost. But check this

‘92 Finals Drexler - 25/8/5 on 41%
‘92 Finals Jordan - 36/5/7 on 53%

[tpols]

Shit like this... You're an asshat if you truly believe this.

Yeah bro... basketball is just getting worse. Players are getting worse. Before was better. Just like how every sport has regressed. Not like 100m times have come down. Or swimming times have come down. Or how powerlifters are stronger now? Or how Olympic lifters are stronger than ever.

Nah man. Basketball is the only sport getting worse. And Clyde Drexler would average 40. **** 35.

You don't have to like the product the game is today. But you're deadset stupid if you think players are worse. Just about every player on the court can do 3 fold what players back 30 years ago could.

And Jimmy Butler>Clyde.

Basketball isn't a pure athletic sport based on speed and strength and measurables like track or swimming or weight lifting. Theres a very heavy skill component which is why a guy like Jokic can be an MVP while not being elite in any athletic measurable. Besides just being huge.

Its without a doubt easier to score and play offense today with every role player being a sniper... the spacing. It makes it far easier for star players attacking the basket or creating their own shot.

Combined with the soft ass fouls and flopping culture... its pretty much a breeze for most stars to score nowadays.

And that takes us to Clyde. His nickname was literally "the Glide". He had MJ level athleticism and slashing ability. This era would be perfect for him with the driving lanes he would be afforded.

[Im Still Ballin]

It's definitely an intriguing discussion, given recent events. I'm not sure; Clyde seems to be the comfortable pick, but Jimmy's an enigma. He's hard to measure as a talent.

[8Ball]

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Need an answer on each thread below.

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[OrlandoMagicGuy]

Clyde in 92 was runner-up MVP behind a prime Jordan in a tougher defensive era.Jimmy at best would be a 15-18 ppg scorer back then but he'd have more freedom on the defensive end.

[ClipperRevival]

Jimmy is one of the most inconsistent players I have EVER seen. When he's right, he plays like a near BITW. When he's not, he's a complete non-factor and looks completely uninterested. Just kind of puzzling to be honest. Why is his effort so inconsistent?

[SouBeachTalents]

Jimmy is one of the most inconsistent players I have EVER seen. When he's right, he plays like a near BITW. When he's not, he's a complete non-factor and looks completely uninterested. Just kind of puzzling to be honest. Why is his effort so inconsistent?

I wouldn't even call him inconsistent, more like enigmatic. I'd call someone like PG inconsistent, but his play generally evens out over the long haul. Butler goes from playing like a top 15-20 player to, as you said, looking like the best player in the world on any given night, which is something we've seen on several occasions during these playoffs. His performance last night, and Games 3 & 5 in the 2020 Finals, were literally as good as some of the top 10 players of all time. If the Heat make the Finals, I'm not even sure you could definitively call Curry the best player in the series. And I have legitimately NO idea what to expect from Butler tomorrow He could drop 40, he could have 15, neither would even be that surprising to me.