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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsNY View Post
    Yes because the Nets are an unstoppable defensive juggernaut.
    The other teams would not be able to keep up with them on offense.

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Kyrie has a great midrange game and is one of the most creative and effective guard finishers ever. He's basically Kevin Johnson with an elite jumper. What exactly would he have to change?
    He'd have to stop palming the ball for sure. Watch a game from back then. They aren't less skilled as some here would like to believe. The rules restricted what they could do more

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Players actually used to get just as many FTs back in the day. For rim runners yea it would be tougher, but for shooters? You had 175 lb guys like John Stockton, Mark Price, and Reggie miller lighting it up, and none of them were as good at scoring as Durant, Kyrie, or Harden. Its a myth that every possession players picked up full court. That was reserved for the most important possessions. In the flow guys brought the ball up just jogging it up the court. And if the shot ended up in a miss and a rebound a full court press isn't even possible. That can only happen on an inbound. Watch the tape. You guys are lying.
    sure they got FT's because it was physical not because a guy tries to get up and guard you and you throw your arms into hi or fall on the fall without being touched

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by PistonsFan#21 View Post
    How would Kyrie get called for carry/ travel violations when Iverson used to do even more flagrant carries starting back in his rookie year in 1996? Even his legendary iso 1v1 crossover against MJ was arguably a carry and ref didn't make anything of it.
    '96 with AI is when that shit really changed sadly

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    90s was the weakest era in bball history and your asking how would kd, kyrie, harden, griffin, alrdidge, deandre do agianst them?

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopanonymous View Post
    Modern 2021 Nets (let's assume healthy) or basically any of these prolific 3 point 130+ ppg superteams do if timewarped backwards into 1996 or 1986. Where would they rank if suddenly thrust into a Playoffs against the best of yesteryears teams? Would players of the 80's or 90's be stunned or shellshocked at the advanced product of modern nutrition and training and lights out 3 point shooting / team strategies? Would "3>2" ultimately still win the day even back then when they didn't utilize it as much? Or would we see something more along the lines of the past banned methods of fighting through screens and handchecking throwing these modern shooters more off balance and making the 2 become a debatable better shot even for the modern guys? I liked how the 1992 dream team hypothetical went let's see how this one goes.
    They'd struggle big time in the 90's. Defense wins championships and that couldn't be more true in the slowed down half court physical 90's.

    They'd be a bit better in the more up tempo 80's but Defense still mattered. They'd lose just like they're gonna lose this year.

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    They'd struggle big time in the 90's. Defense wins championships and that couldn't be more true in the slowed down half court physical 90's.

    They'd be a bit better in the more up tempo 80's but Defense still mattered. They'd lose just like they're gonna lose this year.
    You are thinking about this wrong. KD, Kyrie, and Harden are literally the best ISO/half court scorers in the league. They are MADE for how the game slows down in the playoffs and often the finals. Also, they would have the shortened 3 point line in 96 which they would bomb threes from. Also, Joe Harris is literally the best volume three point shooter in the league this year.

    Yeah they don't have a good defense but it wouldn't matter.

    I just can't believe how so many people romanticize/simplify the past NBA.

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    Default Re: Forget about past teams time traveling - how would 2021 Nets do in say, 86 or 96?

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk View Post
    You are thinking about this wrong. KD, Kyrie, and Harden are literally the best ISO/half court scorers in the league. They are MADE for how the game slows down in the playoffs and often the finals. Also, they would have the shortened 3 point line in 96 which they would bomb threes from. Also, Joe Harris is literally the best volume three point shooter in the league this year.

    Yeah they don't have a good defense but it wouldn't matter.

    I just can't believe how so many people romanticize/simplify the past NBA.
    I'll give you kd. He'd do his thing regardless of the era. Only problem is this isn't the kd of old. He's coming off an Achilles and has barely been able to stay on the floor this year so we have no idea what version of kd were gonna get come playoff time especially in a more physical era.

    As far as harden and kyrie. They both played the majority of their careers in the easiest scoring era ever. And even so we've seen many times where both have looked lackluster come playoff time. Shit harden couldn't even beat the warriors without the mighty steph curry in the lineup but i'm supposed to think he'd have no problems against better teams from years past?

    As far as kyrie he's weird and a conundrum. He was a beast with bron by his side but that worked because he didn't have to do anything but score. Plus he knew his place and knew it was brons team so his weirdness stayed in check. On this nets team i'm not sure he knows his place. He probably thinks he's the best player on the team and i can see that becoming a problem at some point.

    And at the end of the day there's still the defense problem. Please tell me all about who's gaurding mj on this nets team. Better yet who's gaurding shaq for them to even get to see mj.

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