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2nd Greatest Player
Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dumars
In the first round of the 1986 NBA Playoffs.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...-vs-hawks.html
Wilkins averaged 34.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg against the Pre Bad Boys Pistons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue88GPECmEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hZauN4m9d0
And his 2nd and 3rd option were Randy Whitman and Doc Rivers who became future nba coaches.
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
The Hawks won 50 games that year. And were seeded higher than the Pistons.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
FURTHER proof why Nique is very underrated! He WILLED those Hawks teams to those multiple 50 win seasons back in the day. When u look at his supporting casts, its EASY to see Nique made those teams BETTER than they should have been. He was such a dominant scoring force that it made life easier for his teammates. The fact they pushed that Celtics team to 7 games in 88 in another great indicator of how dominant Nique was!
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by bizil
FURTHER proof why Nique is very underrated! He WILLED those Hawks teams to those multiple 50 win seasons back in the day. When u look at his supporting casts, its EASY to see Nique made those teams BETTER than they should have been. He was such a dominant scoring force that it made life easier for his teammates. The fact they pushed that Celtics team to 7 games in 88 in another great indicator of how dominant Nique was!
highly overrated. Was considered one of the best players in the game when he was really just another high scoring small forward and not as good as some less hyped. Much like Carmelo
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
highly overrated. Was considered one of the best players in the game when he was really just another high scoring small forward and not as good as some less hyped. Much like Carmelo
Like who?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Like who?
Dantley, English, King off hand. Check the numbers. Wilkins high usage, low efficiency, bad D.
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Dantley, English, King off hand. Check the numbers. Wilkins high usage, low efficiency, bad D.
Dantley and King were/are pretty revered..
Both guys though (I won’t even mention Alex English here because he has no argument) didn’t have what Dominique did.
King really only had one great year, and missed the second half of it. He gets almost a Tmac rep but wasn’t that.
Dantley filled shit up on a bad team for years. The first time he played with an even decent squad he was scape-goatee as the reason they couldn’t win. Didn’t have the mindset, was too used to scoring a lot on bad teams.
Dominque obviously had more shine because of the dunk contests and playing with a better squad, but he was doing 27-30 ppg for like 7 years and put more pressure than either of those other guys did on the glass and in transition.
And I don’t think any of those guys you mentioned were known as great defenders by any means at all.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Dantley and King were/are pretty revered..
Both guys though (I won’t even mention Alex English here because he has no argument) didn’t have what Dominique did.
King really only had one great year, and missed the second half of it. He gets almost a Tmac rep but wasn’t that.
Dantley filled shit up on a bad team for years. The first time he played with an even decent squad he was scape-goatee as the reason they couldn’t win. Didn’t have the mindset, was too used to scoring a lot on bad teams.
Dominque obviously had more shine because of the dunk contests and playing with a better squad, but he was doing 27-30 ppg for like 7 years and put more pressure than either of those other guys did on the glass and in transition.
And I don’t think any of those guys you mentioned were known as great defenders by any means at all.
King was revered because he played in NY. Dantley was never thought of at their level though Wilkens can't compare to Dantley if you look deeply. Advanced stats darling. English has much better advanced numbers as well. Dantley started the Jazz long playoff streak and went to the Pistons after that where he was dumped for Isiah's buddy
Wilkens numbers are inefficient. 1 more rebound over Dantley.
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.
Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
League TS% during his career: 53.7%
Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by RRR3
Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.
Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
League TS% during his career: 53.7%
Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.
along with scoring, usage is the only stat where he ranked highly while Dantley is one of the most efficient players ever all while scoring at a similar rate to Wilkens. He's not Allen Iverson but he wasn't efficient
Usage
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
King was revered because he played in NY. Dantley was never thought of at their level though Wilkens can't compare to Dantley if you look deeply. Advanced stats darling. English has much better advanced numbers as well. Dantley started the Jazz long playoff streak and went to the Pistons after that where he was dumped for Isiah's buddy
Wilkens numbers are inefficient. 1 more rebound over Dantley.
I mean...the argument is obviously close. Just because Nique got more shine doesn't mean they all weren't extremely close.
I also tend to think he gets overrated but he clearly was not inferior to any of these people.
If you were to say George Gervin then you might have a stronger case.
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Decent college freshman
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Who cares about beating the pre-Bad Boys Pistons?
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Decent college freshman
Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by RRR3
Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.
Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
League TS% during his career: 53.7%
Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.
League average scoring efficiency is not nearly good enough for a primary scorer.
And Nique wasn't just inefficient in terms of shooting and scoring, but also in terms of use of his time on court - that is he didn't do enough positive things per minute compared to other stars. In 1986, for example, he averaged 2.6 assists on 3.2 turnovers and that is also inefficient.
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Laimbeer was just a professional door troll moonlighting as an NBA player. He was only good for being a shameless thug. He definitely has daddy issues.
Trisucka was an overrated cra.kka, and Dumars was an overrated ni.kka whose legacy got a boost by playing next to Thomas.
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Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum
Originally Posted by light
Who cares about beating the pre-Bad Boys Pistons?
Agree. Dominique beating the early 1986 Pistons isn't that big of a deal, just like beating the clearly washed 1991 Pistons.
However, Dominique leading the 0 other all-star Hawks to 57 wins in the following season is highly impressive, 17 wins above the 8th seed Chicago Bulls, who had the same amount of all-stars.
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