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    Default Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dumars

    In the first round of the 1986 NBA Playoffs.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...-vs-hawks.html

    Wilkins averaged 34.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg against the Pre Bad Boys Pistons

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue88GPECmEE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hZauN4m9d0

    And his 2nd and 3rd option were Randy Whitman and Doc Rivers who became future nba coaches.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    The Hawks won 50 games that year. And were seeded higher than the Pistons.



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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    FURTHER proof why Nique is very underrated! He WILLED those Hawks teams to those multiple 50 win seasons back in the day. When u look at his supporting casts, its EASY to see Nique made those teams BETTER than they should have been. He was such a dominant scoring force that it made life easier for his teammates. The fact they pushed that Celtics team to 7 games in 88 in another great indicator of how dominant Nique was!

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by bizil View Post
    FURTHER proof why Nique is very underrated! He WILLED those Hawks teams to those multiple 50 win seasons back in the day. When u look at his supporting casts, its EASY to see Nique made those teams BETTER than they should have been. He was such a dominant scoring force that it made life easier for his teammates. The fact they pushed that Celtics team to 7 games in 88 in another great indicator of how dominant Nique was!
    highly overrated. Was considered one of the best players in the game when he was really just another high scoring small forward and not as good as some less hyped. Much like Carmelo

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    highly overrated. Was considered one of the best players in the game when he was really just another high scoring small forward and not as good as some less hyped. Much like Carmelo
    Like who?

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    Like who?
    Dantley, English, King off hand. Check the numbers. Wilkins high usage, low efficiency, bad D.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    Dantley, English, King off hand. Check the numbers. Wilkins high usage, low efficiency, bad D.
    Dantley and King were/are pretty revered..

    Both guys though (I won’t even mention Alex English here because he has no argument) didn’t have what Dominique did.

    King really only had one great year, and missed the second half of it. He gets almost a Tmac rep but wasn’t that.

    Dantley filled shit up on a bad team for years. The first time he played with an even decent squad he was scape-goatee as the reason they couldn’t win. Didn’t have the mindset, was too used to scoring a lot on bad teams.

    Dominque obviously had more shine because of the dunk contests and playing with a better squad, but he was doing 27-30 ppg for like 7 years and put more pressure than either of those other guys did on the glass and in transition.

    And I don’t think any of those guys you mentioned were known as great defenders by any means at all.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    Dantley and King were/are pretty revered..

    Both guys though (I won’t even mention Alex English here because he has no argument) didn’t have what Dominique did.

    King really only had one great year, and missed the second half of it. He gets almost a Tmac rep but wasn’t that.

    Dantley filled shit up on a bad team for years. The first time he played with an even decent squad he was scape-goatee as the reason they couldn’t win. Didn’t have the mindset, was too used to scoring a lot on bad teams.

    Dominque obviously had more shine because of the dunk contests and playing with a better squad, but he was doing 27-30 ppg for like 7 years and put more pressure than either of those other guys did on the glass and in transition.

    And I don’t think any of those guys you mentioned were known as great defenders by any means at all.
    King was revered because he played in NY. Dantley was never thought of at their level though Wilkens can't compare to Dantley if you look deeply. Advanced stats darling. English has much better advanced numbers as well. Dantley started the Jazz long playoff streak and went to the Pistons after that where he was dumped for Isiah's buddy

    Wilkens numbers are inefficient. 1 more rebound over Dantley.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.

    Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
    League TS% during his career: 53.7%



    Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.

    Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
    League TS% during his career: 53.7%



    Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.
    along with scoring, usage is the only stat where he ranked highly while Dantley is one of the most efficient players ever all while scoring at a similar rate to Wilkens. He's not Allen Iverson but he wasn't efficient

    Usage

    1983-84 NBA 27.1 (11th)
    1984-85 NBA 32.5 (2nd)
    1985-86 NBA 32.9 (1st)
    1986-87 NBA 32.3 (2nd)
    1987-88 NBA 35.2 (1st)
    1988-89 NBA 29.4 (5th)
    1989-90 NBA 30.4 (4th)
    1990-91 NBA 28.1 (9th)
    1991-92 NBA 30.7 (2nd)
    1992-93 NBA 31.9 (2nd)
    1993-94 NBA 32.0 (2nd)
    1994-95 NBA 26.6 (13th)
    1996-97 NBA 29.7 (6th)
    Career NBA 30.3 (10th)
    Career 30.3 (9th)

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    King was revered because he played in NY. Dantley was never thought of at their level though Wilkens can't compare to Dantley if you look deeply. Advanced stats darling. English has much better advanced numbers as well. Dantley started the Jazz long playoff streak and went to the Pistons after that where he was dumped for Isiah's buddy

    Wilkens numbers are inefficient. 1 more rebound over Dantley.
    I mean...the argument is obviously close. Just because Nique got more shine doesn't mean they all weren't extremely close.

    I also tend to think he gets overrated but he clearly was not inferior to any of these people.

    If you were to say George Gervin then you might have a stronger case.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Who cares about beating the pre-Bad Boys Pistons?

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Wilkins wasn’t inefficient. Xiao is being retarded again.

    Wilkins TS%: 53.6%
    League TS% during his career: 53.7%



    Basically league average and his volume was massive which is a point in his favor. Xiao is braindead.
    League average scoring efficiency is not nearly good enough for a primary scorer.

    And Nique wasn't just inefficient in terms of shooting and scoring, but also in terms of use of his time on court - that is he didn't do enough positive things per minute compared to other stars. In 1986, for example, he averaged 2.6 assists on 3.2 turnovers and that is also inefficient.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Laimbeer was just a professional door troll moonlighting as an NBA player. He was only good for being a shameless thug. He definitely has daddy issues.

    Trisucka was an overrated cra.kka, and Dumars was an overrated ni.kka whose legacy got a boost by playing next to Thomas.

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    Default Re: Dominique Wilkins 3-1 a Pistons team which had Thomas, Laimbeer, Tripucka and Dum

    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    Who cares about beating the pre-Bad Boys Pistons?
    Agree. Dominique beating the early 1986 Pistons isn't that big of a deal, just like beating the clearly washed 1991 Pistons.

    However, Dominique leading the 0 other all-star Hawks to 57 wins in the following season is highly impressive, 17 wins above the 8th seed Chicago Bulls, who had the same amount of all-stars.

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