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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by 3ball
Only a 24.1 PER this year because everyone is putting up those stats
So only lebron can be MVP candidate with weak stats like 24 PER
The Lakers are just stacked
Jordan won MVP with only a 25 PER and with worse efficiency than LeBron
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Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Can't people just appreciate how well LeBron is playing without AD at the age of 36 without throwing shade at him? At this rate, he might win MVP. Inflated stats or not, it's impressive to keep up this level of play, even if a lot of other players are recording triple doubles, too.
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by 3ball
Only a 24.1 PER this year because everyone is putting up those stats
So only lebron can be MVP candidate with weak stats like 24 PER
The Lakers are just stacked
LeBron has more 30 PER playoff runs than Jordan. Higher peak PER too.
Looks like you fall on your own sword. Again.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
There's no way when 3ball made his account 7 years ago that he'd ever imagine he'd STILL be stuck on here pushing his anti-LeBron agenda in 2021. He probably thought LeBron would be a shell of himself or out of the league by now, instead he's the reigning FMVP and an MVP candidate
Now he's relegated to equating 7x All-NBA HOF'ers to bench players
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Professor Objectivity
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
He went full retard 7 years ago and couldn't stop.
I never lost an argument against him. Ever.
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Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by 3ball
Nope because Lebron still has 2 Pippen's in Schroeder and Harrell - both achieved prime Pippen stats last year before being cratered by Lebron and 4th option roles this year
But now both guys are back to prime pippen production since AD has been out
Imagine having Lebron + AD + 2 Pippen's (Harrell and Schroeder)
#stacked
#manufacturedresume
I’m confused here. You said that Schroeder and Harrell’s numbers are cratered by lebron (and 4th option roles) but then in literally the next sentence you say that their numbers are back because AD is out.
Which is it? Because to me it looks like you just played yourself and shouldn’t really be mentioning lebron as the craterer but rather the role they had.
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Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by 8Ball
LeBron has more 30 PER playoff runs than Jordan. Higher peak PER too.
Looks like you fall on your own sword. Again.
Jordan's playoff PER at the ages 30-35:
30 - 30.1
32 - 24.8
33 - 26.7
34 - 27.1
35 - 28.1
LeBron's playoff PER at the ages 30-35:
30 - 25.3
31 - 30.0
32 - 30.1
33 - 32.2
35 - 30.2
With an insane amount of more mileage than Jordan. LeBron, who relies on his skills ages like wine. Jordan, who relied on his athleticism aged like vinegar.
Last edited by TheGoatest; 03-17-2021 at 09:43 AM.
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NBA Legend
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Cavs for life
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by 3ball
Only a 24.1 PER this year because everyone is putting up those stats
So only lebron can be MVP candidate with weak stats like 24 PER
Kobe, AI, Nash and Rose all won MVPs with similar or lower PER, and that's just in the last 20 years.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
GOAT title been locked up for Bron. Denying that is crazy. He be GOAT
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Lol
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
There's no way when 3ball made his account 7 years ago that he'd ever imagine he'd STILL be stuck on here pushing his anti-LeBron agenda in 2021. He probably thought LeBron would be a shell of himself or out of the league by now, instead he's the reigning FMVP and an MVP candidate
Now he's relegated to equating 7x All-NBA HOF'ers to bench players
LeBron isn’t going anyway for at least like 4 more years. 3ball still hasn’t accepted it.
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Banned
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Year of Kong.
Bran filling up the stat sheets for his HOF credentials.
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by TheGoatest
Jordan's playoff PER at the ages 30-35:
30 - 30.1
32 - 24.8
33 - 26.7
34 - 27.1
35 - 28.1
LeBron's playoff PER at the ages 30-35:
30 - 25.3
31 - 30.0
32 - 30.1
33 - 32.2
35 - 30.2
With an insane amount of more mileage than Jordan. LeBron, who relies on his skills ages like wine. Jordan, who relied on his athleticism aged like vinegar.
I thought a legend once said that the PER was a garbage basis? Lmfao.
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National High School Star
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by Axe
I thought a legend once said that the PER was a garbage basis? Lmfao.
Up until around 2007, per was regarded as the most reliable catch all stat. But around that time a player at Cleveland began to achieve goat level per numbers and a number of people began to see it as a garbage stat. But in 2010, when three players, all with high per, teamed up in Miami, it once again became the single best measure of a player. But only for a short window of time. By 2015 it was a garbage stat again. Until 2019, when the Lakers made some moves and acquired a high per player, and the aforementioned player from Cleveland (now also at the Lakers) had a declining per. Since then it has become the #1 most reliable measure of a player again.
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Another triple double by LeBron James
Originally Posted by AussieSteve
Up until around 2007, per was regarded as the most reliable catch all stat. But around that time a player at Cleveland began to achieve goat level per numbers and a number of people began to see it as a garbage stat. But in 2010, when three players, all with high per, teamed up in Miami, it once again became the single best measure of a player. But only for a short window of time. By 2015 it was a garbage stat again. Until 2019, when the Lakers made some moves and acquired a high per player, and the aforementioned player from Cleveland (now also at the Lakers) had a declining per. Since then it has become the #1 most reliable measure of a player again.
So in other words it isn't a consistent basis after all, since it is dictated by the current events happening in the league.
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