LeBron's AllDefense pre & post-2014: haters about to avoid the evidence LIKE A PLAGUE

[LeCramp]

You are a ****ing idiot. Mike Brown was a trash ass coach (even defensively) without LeBron. Remember his stint with the Lakers? Of Course you don't.

Harrell is a mediocre defender and Gasol has been average at best. The Lakers without AD have still maintained a crazy good defensive rating.

In the 4 games Schroder and AD missed, the Lakers held their opponents to 111 points a night. This is WITH an OT game in there as well, in which they gave up 127 points.

Held the Nets to 109 points (they score 121 a game and are the #1 offense).

Held the Jazz to 114 points (they score 116.4 a game and are the #2 offense).

Held the Heat to 96 points (they score 106.9 a game).

All those game were without AD AND Schroder.

LeBron shits on K_ as a defender that has you hurting right now. Even current LeBron is miles better than peak K_ as a defender.


LeBron is also currently 2nd in the league in defensive win shares.

LeBron is also currently 5th in the league in defensive rating.

LeBron is also currently 9th in the league in defensive RPM, with the next closest Laker being AD at 31.

Not matter how much you throw out random autistic and inane ramblings, facts are facts, chimp.

Calm down son defending a man who gives no shits about you....you're weird bro smh

[TheGoatest]

Lebron should've made All-Defense last year, and should this year. But who knows if the media will vote for him.

Considering he was overwhelmingly a G and not F last season, he should've definitely been all-defense 1st team. The anti-LeBron media didn't even give him 2nd.
I mean, it's so obvious that there are people in the media who have actual votes and impact on how players get rewarded for their play that are just as insecure and butthurt about LeBron as there are losers and their alts on this forum.

[Bronbron23]

Prior to the 2013-14 season LeBron had made 5 straight All-defensive 1st teams.
In the 2013-14 season he made the All-defensive 2nd team.
Then, in the following 6 seasons he hasn't made any all-defensive teams.

Quite an abrupt change, isn't it?

Well, guess what? Prior to the 2013-14 season, the NBA coaches selected all-defensive team members. Starting with the 2013-14 season the media selected the all-defensive teams.

Now, what was it you LeBron haters like to call him? "LeSPN"? Preaching the gospel that LeBron is a media-manufactured star?

In fact, the empirical evidence shows that you should thank your lucky stars that media is the one who votes for awards and honors. Because if it was the coaches, who actually go against him on a nightly basis who were voting, LeBron would have:

3-4 more MVPs
1-2 DPOYs
2015 Finals MVP
Several more All-defensive selections

You have no greater ally than the LeBron-hating media. And if LeBron doesn't win the MVP this season, it will be the media that comes to your rescue once again.

Bruh wtf are u going on about? Bron in general hasn't played great defense in the regular season for the last 6 years or so. Not because he can't. He's just saving himself for post season where he picks up the intensity and plays all defense type defense. Dpoys and all defense are regular season awards though.

Bron is definitely still one of the best defenders in the game when he's engaged. He just dosn't do it consistently throughout the regular season to earn an award or team defense.

[2much_knowledge]

Its amazing how Aj and goatness (maybe the same person) go in depth, so in detail and insightful when they make their passionate lebron rants but ouside of lebron, they make retarded post and nonsense opinions. Why won't you guys try to apply it to other subjects too? Lol

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Its amazing how Aj and goatness (maybe the same person) go in depth, so in detail and insightful when they make their passionate lebron rants but ouside of lebron, they make retarded post and nonsense opinions. Why won't you guys try to apply it to other subjects too? Lol

Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

[2much_knowledge]

Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

Ohh. I see

[Airupthere]

Apu and RRRetard3 are fake Heat fans. They love Bran more than Wade. They go out of their way to shit on Spo because Spo success is a threat to Bran for them

Spo being 2 wins away from a chip with that cast last year had baybois fuming and looking for any chance to downplay him when Spo is easily best coach of this era (post-Phil/Pop) and arguably top 10 all-time already

[TheGoatest]

Bruh wtf are u going on about? Bron in general hasn't played great defense in the regular season for the last 6 years or so. Not because he can't. He's just saving himself for post season where he picks up the intensity and plays all defense type defense. Dpoys and all defense are regular season awards though.

Bron is definitely still one of the best defenders in the game when he's engaged. He just dosn't do it consistently throughout the regular season to earn an award or team defense.

GTFO with you trying to milk the "LeBron doesn't play defense" reputation generated by haters. Your counter-argument that he doesn't play defense consists of posting random, out of context gifs and youtube videos of a some player scoring while being guarded by LeBron, as if you couldn't do that with Bill Russell.
There is a ton of evidence that he was tremendous on the defensive end last season, easily worthy of all-defensive selection.
The fact that the media is anti-LeBron has been exposed. It cannot be refuted.

[Bronbron23]

GTFO with you trying to milk the "LeBron doesn't play defense" reputation generated by haters. Your counter-argument that he doesn't play defense consists of posting random, out of context gifs and youtube videos of a some player scoring while being guarded by LeBron, as if you couldn't do that with Bill Russell.
There is a ton of evidence that he was tremendous on the defensive end last season, easily worthy of all-defensive selection.
The fact that the media is anti-LeBron has been exposed. It cannot be refuted.

Nah dude. I watch plenty of lakers games and cle games when he was there. You got your stan goggles on. Anyone can see bron hasn't played elite defensive consistently in the reg season in a while with the exception last year and this year he's been good . during his cle run and his first year with lakers he was mediocre during reg season and then He would definitely amp it up come playoffs. Your reasoning makes no sense. The nba gave bron first team all defense for years straight. Why would they all of a sudden just stop giving it to him?

Just look at brons drtg over the last 6 years. During miami when he was first team defense his drtg was low 100's. Then he gets to cle and his drtg is high 100's. Just a coincidence though right? Lately his been better. Last year they could of gave him a first team defense. Not a dpoy though.

[LAL]

That's not a ball player. That's a clown.

[TheGoatest]

Nah dude. I watch plenty of lakers games and cle games when he was there. You got your stan goggles on. Anyone can see bron hasn't played elite defensive consistently in the reg season in a while with the exception last year and this year he's been good . during his cle run and his first year with lakers he was mediocre during reg season and then He would definitely amp it up come playoffs. Your reasoning makes no sense. The nba gave bron first team all defense for years straight. Why would they all of a sudden just stop giving it to him?

Just look at brons drtg over the last 6 years. During miami when he was first team defense his drtg was low 100's. Then he gets to cle and his drtg is high 100's. Just a coincidence though right? Lately his been better. Last year they could of gave him a first team defense. Not a dpoy though.

Well, you're at least somewhat better than the other haters because at least you admit that he got robbed of an all-defensive selection last season.

His defensive rating last season was better than Ben Simmons' this season.

As for those Cavs seasons, he carried the worst defensive supporting cast of all time that ended up winning a championship. Nobody on those Cavs could play a lick of defense. At one point, there was an analysis that concluded Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love to be literally the worst pick and roll defensive duo in the entire league. Yet he was the one strong link in that atrocious defensive chain. As a small forward, he averaged 2.3 blocks over 7 finals games to lead everyone in the 2016 finals, and was the Cavs best and only rim protector throughout the series.

YouTube videos, eh?

How about this one showing LeBron completely neutralizing MVP Giannis (well, LeBron was the real MVP as he went on to prove in the playoffs, but that's another story) in the Lakers-Bucks game, right before the league shut down due to Covid-19:



Or this one where he played tremendous defense on Kawhi in the Lakers-Clippers meeting in the bubble, right down to the buzzer where he forced him to pass the ball to Paul George, whom he also forced to miss:



Or then him confirming his regular season defensive prowess in the playoffs, when he shut down Jamal Murray, who had multiple 50 point plus multiple other 40+ games in the playoffs:



LeBron haters agenda = EXPOSED

[Bronbron23]

Well, you're at least somewhat better than the other haters because at least you admit that he got robbed of an all-defensive selection last season.

His defensive rating last season was better than Ben Simmons' this season.

As for those Cavs seasons, he carried the worst defensive supporting cast of all time that ended up winning a championship. Nobody on those Cavs could play a lick of defense. At one point, there was an analysis that concluded Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love to be literally the worst pick and roll defensive duo in the entire league. Yet he was the one strong link in that atrocious defensive chain. As a small forward, he averaged 2.3 blocks over 7 finals games to lead everyone in the 2016 finals, and was the Cavs best and only rim protector throughout the series.

YouTube videos, eh?

How about this one showing LeBron completely neutralizing MVP Giannis (well, LeBron was the real MVP as he went on to prove in the playoffs, but that's another story) in the Lakers-Bucks game, right before the league shut down due to Covid-19:



Or this one where he played tremendous defense on Kawhi in the Lakers-Clippers meeting in the bubble, right down to the buzzer where he forced him to pass the ball to Paul George, whom he also forced to miss:



Or then him confirming his regular season defensive prowess in the playoffs, when he shut down Jamal Murray, who had multiple 50 point plus multiple other 40+ games in the playoffs:



LeBron haters agenda = EXPOSED

Dude all those videos are of bron on lakers where i already said he's first team defense worthy.

As far as the cavs being trash defensively i Don't think you know what your talking about. they had weak links but they weren't as bad as your going on about. Actually in the playoffs when bron was engaged they were pretty good defensively. They held one of the best offensive teams ever to multiple sub 100 point games. They won in 16 because of their defensive not their offense.

[TheGoatest]

Dude all those videos are of bron on lakers where i already said he's first team defense worthy.

As far as the cavs being trash defensively i Don't think you know what your talking about. they had weak links but they weren't as bad as your going on about. Actually in the playoffs when bron was engaged they were pretty good defensively. They held one of the best offensive teams ever to multiple sub 100 point games. They won in 16 because of their defensive not their offense.

Yeah. Because of LeBron.
The 2016 Cavs' offensive rating was 3rd in the league. Their defensive rating was 10th. That is remarkably low by championship team standards, who are always around top 5 in defensive rating. Aside from LeBron, they didn't have a single noteworthy rim protector or lockdown perimeter defender. Aside from LeBron, their best rim protector was Tristan Thompson, whose career high average in bpg is 1.1, and their best perimeter defender was Iman Shumpert, who was a great defender very early in his career with the Knicks and has been living on that reputation ever since. Those Cavs were as close to an "All-O, No-D" championship team as it gets.

[Bronbron23]

Yeah. Because of LeBron.
The 2016 Cavs' offensive rating was 3rd in the league. Their defensive rating was 10th. That is remarkably low by championship team standards, who are always around top 5 in defensive rating. Aside from LeBron, they didn't have a single noteworthy rim protector or lockdown perimeter defender. Aside from LeBron, their best rim protector was Tristan Thompson, whose career high average in bpg is 1.1, and their best perimeter defender was Iman Shumpert, who was a great defender very early in his career with the Knicks and has been living on that reputation ever since. Those Cavs were as close to an "All-O, No-D" championship team as it gets.

Yeah forsure lebron was the best defender and main reason why they got much better. They had solid pieces though. Tristan, iman and jr at thw time wete very goid defensively. Plus what you said kind of supports my claim that bron doesn't go full out in regular season compared to playoffs. If it's all bron why the great improvement defensively between reg and post season?

[dankok8]

There are several SF's who were better defensively than Lebron even last year... Kawhi, Siakam, Covington, Butler, Tucker just off of the top of my head. He was definitely a positive defensive player though.