Some of Kobe's and Duncan rings are 2nd option rings

[Lebron23]

They won 5 nba titles, but kobe's firsrt 3 rings he was a sidekick. Same with Tim Duncan's last 2 nba titles. That's why espn ranked them outside of the top 6. Kobe is going to be ranked at 12 if they make another lists.

[k0kakw0rld]

They won 5 nba titles, but kobe's firsr 3 rings he was a sidekick. Same with Tim Duncan's last 2 nba titles. That's why espn ranked them outside of the top 6. Kobe is going to be ranked at 12 if they make another lists.

Kareem has 6 rings and won 2 FMVPs. Why is he top 3?

[Airupthere]

They won 5 nba titles, but kobe's firsrt 3 rings he was a sidekick. Same with Tim Duncan's last 2 nba titles. That's why espn ranked them outside of the top 6. Kobe is going to be ranked at 12 if they make another lists.

Lebron and AD were sidekicks in last years finals. Is that consistent with the examples you gave?

[Lebron23]

Kareem has 6 rings and won 2 FMVPs. Why is he top 3?

6x nba mvp, all time leading scorer. He should have been a 3x finals mvp.

[Lebron23]

Lebron and AD were sidekicks in last years finals. Is that consistent with the examples you gave?

Lebron won the finals mvp in 2020. I ranked Duncan at 9 while Kobe at 12. Espn ranked them at 8th and 9th

[k0kakw0rld]

6x nba mvp, all time leading scorer. He should have been a 3x finals mvp.

You did not mention any of that in the OP.

Tim Duncan played in the West in the 2000s and won a ring in three different decades. Only player in NBA history to achieve this.
He is a 5x champions 3x FMVPs 2x MVPs. He technically never missed the playoffs since entering the league. Anybody who doesn't have him top 10 is just a HATER and ignorant.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Duncan was drafted into David Robinson's team. They just got lucky that Robinson was injured the entire 1997 season. Look at David Robinson's 2 healthy seasons before Spurs got Duncan:

1995: MVP
1996: 2nd in MVP

2005 Manu was the best player on the spurs and Duncan was his sidekick.

2007 Spurs were a well balanced team and the only title when the big 3 were all in their primes. Well balanced and not close to a carry job.

Duncan also went the last 10 seasons of his career without a finals MVP (2006-2016) and he didn't even deserve the 2005 finals MVP. So it was like he went the last 12 seasons of his career without a legit finals MVP.

Kobe was Shaq's sidekick for 3 straight rings but he replaced Shaq with Pau Gasol and still won 2\3 finals MVP and 3 straight finals.

[ShawkFactory]

Duncan was drafted into David Robinson's team. They just got lucky that Robinson was injured the entire 1997 season. Look at David Robinson's 2 healthy seasons before Spurs got Duncan:

1995: MVP
1996: 2nd in MVP

2005 Manu was the best player on the spurs and Duncan was his sidekick.

2007 Spurs were a well balanced team and the only title when the big 3 were all in their primes. Well balanced and not close to a carry job.

Duncan also went the last 10 seasons of his career without a finals MVP (2006-2016) and he didn't even deserve the 2005 finals MVP. So it was like he went the last 12 seasons of his career without a legit finals MVP.

Kobe was Shaq's sidekick for 3 straight rings but he replaced Shaq with Pau Gasol and still won 2\3 finals MVP and 3 straight finals.

How can someone be a sidekick and score more than the supposed 1st option during the regular season, playoffs, and finals? Wouldn't the guy who scored less be the sidekick?

Taking out the other aspects of basketball, which we know Duncan excelled at...Duncan scored more than Manu every step of the way.

[MadDog]

Many of Duncan's rings would classify as number two status. Manu and Parker were arguably the Spurs best players as early as 2005. Both were better in 2007 and Kawhi was the best player on the team in 2014.

[ShawkFactory]

Many of Duncan's rings would classify as number two status. Manu and Parker were arguably the Spurs best players as early as 2005. Both were better in 2007 and Kawhi was the best player on the team in 2014.

Duncan finished 4th in MVP voting in both 2005 and 2007.

Fvck outta here with Tony Parker being better

[MadDog]

Duncan finished 4th in MVP voting in both 2005 and 2007.

Fvck outta here with Tony Parker being better

Why are you ducking the playoffs? During their '05 run alone, Manu led the team in nearly all impact categories. BPM-WS-WS48-VORP and should have been FMVP.

[ShawkFactory]

Why are you ducking the playoffs? During their '05 run alone, Manu led the team in nearly all impact categories. BPM-WS-WS48-VORP and should have been FMVP.

I think you should probably re-read my post.

[MadDog]

I think you should probably re-read my post.

Duncan was a regular-season king. What about it?

[k0kakw0rld]

Duncan was a regular-season king. What about it?

Regular season king but he got more FMVPs (3) than Regular season MVPs (2) Sorry to offend you but you are not really a bright guy.

[Kblaze8855]

Leonard in 14 wasn’t any kinda go to guy. He was 4th, 2nd, 5th, and 2nd leading scorer in the 4 rounds those playoffs after being the third leading scorer in the regular season. He won finals mvp like a lot of non superstars have but he didn’t have any sidekicks. He was just one of an ensemble and grew into being a star over the next 2-3 years.

And Duncan sure as hell was no sidekick to Manu or Parker in 05 or 07. That isn’t even worth seriously discussing. Just nonsense that pops up now and then from a small segment of number crunchers who don’t care about basketball.