Embiid or Gobert?

[Xiao Yao You]

Except that’s literally not true, his impact stats offensively are pretty typical for him. Here are Rudy’s ORAPTOR ratings from the last 3 seasons: and 0.1, 0.7 and -0.6

Here are Rudy’s ORPM from the last 3 years: -0.78, 0.06 and -1.22



At some point you’re going to have to accept that the data says he’s at best neutral on offense in terms of impact.

All I know is his screens and the pressure he puts on the rim opens up shooters and his offensive rebounding gives them extra chances.

[RRR3]

Gobert is clearly the best player in Jazz

He’s also clearly worse than Embiid. This is like taking Ben Wallace over Shaq

[Xiao Yao You]

Which is worth more? A dunk or a layup?

probably a dunk since players today have a hard time making layups

[RRR3]

All I know is his screens and the pressure he puts on the rim opens up shooters and his offensive rebounding gives them extra chances.

Yeah and that’s not enough to make his impact on that end a strong positive or even a positive at all in most years. That’s literally what the data says. I’m sorry it upsets you but that’s just reality.

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert is clearly the best player in Jazz

don't know what that is bu Bojan has ben their worst rotation player by far. Try again

[Xiao Yao You]

He’s also clearly worse than Embiid. This is like taking Ben Wallace over Shaq

sure worked when Detroit beat the Lakers. Defense is half the game as we saw last night when the Sixers couldn't stop the Jazz

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah and that’s not enough to make his impact on that end a strong positive or even a positive at all in most years. That’s literally what the data says. I’m sorry it upsets you but that’s just reality.

lots of data that says it does. I'm not upset. I know what he does. realize the simple minded have a hard time seeing past points and triple doubles

[RRR3]

lots of data that says it does. I'm not upset. I know what he does. realize the simple minded have a hard time seeing past points and triple doubles

Go ahead and find me an impact stat that says Gobert is a beast on offense. Impact stats, mind you, not box score stats.

[RRR3]

sure worked when Detroit beat the Lakers. Defense is half the game as we saw last night when the Sixers couldn't stop the Jazz

Yeah it’s not like Kobe tanked that series by chucking up a bunch of bricks and ignoring Shaq

Ben Wallace>Shaq!

[Xiao Yao You]

Go ahead and find me an impact stat that says Gobert is a beast on offense. Impact stats, mind you, not box score stats.

who said beast? Catalyst was the word. Top 5 offense revolving around Rudy. It's a team game which is why the Jazz ave been sucessful. They are laying the best as a team

[Xiao Yao You]

3-3. Not everyone in the Embiid camp for some reason. Almost twice as many votes for all league. Why is Embiid not universally appreciated?

[Tycriss]

He’s also clearly worse than Embiid. This is like taking Ben Wallace over Shaq

Clearly ? no

Gobert's impact is equal to a Supermax player



Last 8 seasons

[Xiao Yao You]

Clearly ? no

Gobert's impact is equal to a Supermax player



Last 8 seasons

one of the top players in the game as I've said

[RRR3]

Clearly ? no

Gobert's impact is equal to a Supermax player



Last 8 seasons

We’re talking about this season. In case you hadn’t noticed Embiid has taken a big leap and Toody is the same player he’s been for like 7 years.

[RRR3]

Xiao when the LEBRON stat says Bogdanovic isn’t the worst rotation player on the Jazz and confirms his boo thang Niang sucks ass “RRRRRROARRRRR HORRIBLE STAT”


Xiao when the LEBRON stat says his loverboy Gobert is great “Actually a great stat!”