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The Puppeteer
LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
4 championships with 3 different teams
4 FMVP
2 of the hardest rings ever (2016 and this year)
Did it for Kobe
GOAT
Anything from here on out is just gravy. He has accomplished everything.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
He still has to win without Pippen
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The Puppeteer
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
He still has to win without Pippen
Who was the defensive GOAT that played alongside LeBron in 2016?
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NBA Legend
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
4/10.
He still doesn’t have a winning %
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Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
And on top of everything else, he doesn't have a 1-9 playoff record without one particular teammate that he had to have with him for every championship he won.
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I don't flop.
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Originally Posted by TheGoatest
And on top of everything else, he doesn't have a 1-9 playoff record without one particular teammate that he had to have with him for every championship he won.
This is true. He just has a 4/10 record after playing with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, A.D., Dwight, Rondo.
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Cavs for life
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
I partially agree.
I think he has already proven that he is equal or better than everyone else except Jordan, and catching Jordan seems unrealistic, so he is basically locked into the top 3 now, and not likely to change that regardless of what happens from here.
Jordan is #1.
Lebron and Kareem are #2/3 depending on how you value big men vs wing players.
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Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Originally Posted by bullettooth
This is true. He just has a 4/10 record after playing with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, A.D., Dwight, Rondo.
You mention all those players, yet he won without each and every one of them.
I just have to mention one player: Scottie Pippen. And the fact that he needed Phil Jackson to coach him as well.
Without Pippen, he even got swept in the first round with Hall of Famer George Gervin on his team.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
You could have made the same argument in 2016, when he delivered the Cavs the title he promised before The Decision. His peak was always going to be #2/#3 all-time after the 2011 series.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Originally Posted by BigTicket
I partially agree.
I think he has already proven that he is equal or better than everyone else except Jordan, and catching Jordan seems unrealistic, so he is basically locked into the top 3 now, and not likely to change that regardless of what happens from here.
Jordan is #1.
Lebron and Kareem are #2/3 depending on how you value big men vs wing players.
It depends on the criteria. I'd still argue that Jordan was better at his peak, but Lebron's extended peak/prime and results are starting to make a real dent in the case for Jordan over Lebron. If Lebron retired now, I'd still go with MJ.
But, man, if Lebron plays 5 more years or something and is still really good for most of them or something...I don't see how you can take anyone over him in history. Jordan's peak edge won't matter at that point. Lebron's level of play, impact, and longevity will be more valuable.
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Lol
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Originally Posted by coin24
4/10.
He still doesn’t have a winning %
Poor shew. Last night was rough for him
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#knickstape
Re: LeBron Has Nothing Left To Prove
Winning one for Knicks would immortalize him
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