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10-01-2020, 12:51 PM #1Decent college freshman
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Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
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10-01-2020, 12:54 PM #2Banned
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
Exactly.
Malone
Stockton
Barkley
Ewing
Payton
Kemp
Shaq
Penny
Drexler
Miller
All these dragons Jordan supposedly slayed in his 6 championship runs, yet none of them won a chip in the 2 years the Bulls didn't win. Except for Drexler, who joined Hakeem to be his sidekick in the Rockets' 2nd ring.
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10-01-2020, 12:55 PM #3Yellow King
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
Stockton and Malone were overhyped playoff chokers, way way way worse than anything we define as choking today (Harden/CP3/Deroze-Lowry/etc)
They had something like 17 playoff runs together and only mustered up 2 Finals with over a half dozen 1st round exits
These were two PERENNIAL superstars in the 90's, on the same team.
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10-01-2020, 03:19 PM #42nd Greatest Player
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
A bunch of playoffs chokers
Originally Posted by scuzzy
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10-01-2020, 03:27 PM #5NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
new fans are accustomed to having only 2 teams with "big 3's" that make the Finals evey year like the heat/spurs or cavs/warriors Originally Posted by TheGoatest
otoh, the Finals standard in the 90's was 1 or 2-star teams, so many teams were Finals-caliber and the margins between teams were razor-thin or non-existent..
that's why the west alternated champions every year - each year some team would have everything go just right and have the edge - the next year it would be another team.. so mj was beating freight trains that had everything going for them heading into the Finals.
ultimately, it's tougher to play in a league with many Finals-caliber teams than being 1 of 2 Finals caliber yes with big 3's
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10-01-2020, 06:37 PM #6National High School Star
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
First 3 posts are made by the same guy. 4th poster(2nd) has no life and isn't very smart. And the next one dedicated his whole life to troll Lebron stans.
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10-01-2020, 08:55 PM #7Very good NBA starter
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
They wheren't multidemnsional both Stockton and Malone embodied the classical PG and PF but they did not have the dynamic game verstaility after that like that for example Pippen: MJ's 2nd option. Hakeem was just great and had both a good offensive and defensive team with athletic players in all positions, then added Drexler and they where even better. The Suns with Barkley and KJ had a great offenisve team but not defensive wise. The Bulls without Grant and just MJ and Pippen would have had it tougher against those teams but when the finally added Rodman it was over. Three of the best defenders ever, Pippen's dynamic game versatility and the best SG Ever in MJ. The rest is history.
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10-01-2020, 09:13 PM #8NBA All-star
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
they were old
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10-01-2020, 09:20 PM #9Boom Baby!
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
Short answer is Hakeem was better than his peers at the time and they had only 2 years/chances to win a ring till the Bulls were at full strength.
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10-01-2020, 10:26 PM #10Very good NBA starter
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
The 93-94 Bulls with Jordan added to the already there Pippen and Grant would have beaten the 93-94 Rockets but the 94-95 Bulls with just Jordan and Pippen (NO Grant) would have lost to the Hakeem-Drexler Rockets of 94-95. That's the way i see it. Originally Posted by Reggie43
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10-01-2020, 11:06 PM #11NBA Legend
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
But MJ doesn't lose in finals. 6/6. Originally Posted by Round Mound
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10-01-2020, 11:15 PM #12Banned
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
Rockets' Horry doesn't lose in finals either. 7/7. Originally Posted by FKAri
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10-01-2020, 11:39 PM #13I don't flop.
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
Oh shit! That puts LeBron where... like, 33rd on the all time list? Originally Posted by TheGoatest
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10-01-2020, 11:46 PM #14Banned
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
My list, based on all-round accomplishments and longevity, doesn't put LeBron behind anyone. Originally Posted by bullettooth
The "finals winning percentage" lists you Jordan stans try to push put Jordan behind John Havlicek, Robert Horry, K.C. Jones and Tom Sanders.
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10-02-2020, 01:03 AM #15We Stay Winning
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Re: Why couldn’t the 90’s Jazz when the chip the years MJ was retired?
You have got to be joking Originally Posted by scuzzy
17 years of full prime play and zero rings? Sheesh Trash Bros for sure
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