T/F: Dirk's reputation will never recover unless he wins a title

[Kobe_6/8]

True. It's surprising to see how many people here doubted Dirk would ever win a ring.

[Thesmallmamba]

Similar to Duncan, Dirk is another player whos "nice guy, humble" persona has blinded us from his horrific chokes and failures throughout the years.

[ShawkFactory]

Similar to Duncan, Dirk is another player whos "nice guy, humble" persona has blinded us from his horrific chokes and failures throughout the years.

Not blinded. Just forgiven because everybody chokes sometimes.

Nobody forgives Lebron and Kobe because they're cocky/assholes

[Thesmallmamba]

Not blinded. Just forgiven because everybody chokes sometimes.

Nobody forgives Lebron and Kobe because they're cocky/assholes

Please dont put LeBron in the same sentence as Kobe in terms of "cockiness"


Kobe has the most missed shots in NBA history, and still walks around like he should be shooting 30 times a game at 37 years old

[HylianNightmare]

So many good posters gone

[ArbitraryWater]

Similar to Duncan, Dirk is another player whos "nice guy, humble" persona has blinded us from his horrific chokes and failures throughout the years.

Not really, and that wasn't the meaning of the thread either

Dirk has one of the best good/bad series ratios in playoff history... even in 2007 just about everything that went wrong went wrong.

Dirk hasn't played a bad series since 2007 until his 2014 first round... where he was just, okay. Thats amazing. Especially considering how impressive he was in 2001, 2002, 2005, and at what all time level he played at in 2003 and 2006.

[LBJFTW]

True. It's surprising to see how many people here doubted Dirk would ever win a ring.

Not as surprising as seeing 8 year old threads get bumped.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

[DaOldLion]

Not really, and that wasn't the meaning of the thread either

Dirk has one of the best good/bad series ratios in playoff history... even in 2007 just about everything that went wrong went wrong.

Dirk hasn't played a bad series since 2007 until his 2014 first round... where he was just, okay. Thats amazing. Especially considering how impressive he was in 2001, 2002, 2005, and at what all time level he played at in 2003 and 2006.

well way to prove his point for him..

those runs were not anything impressive, since when is 23ppg on 40% for an entire playoff run impressive? or 21ppg on 35% for an entire series?

[ArbitraryWater]

well way to prove his point for him..

those runs were not anything impressive, since when is 23ppg on 40% for an entire playoff run impressive? or 21ppg on 35% for an entire series?

Dirk was injured in 2001, it was also his 3rd year in the league, and he still lit up the Spurs for 46/18 in the elimination game, and had 30+ in just about any game he was healthy in

He did 28/13 on 45% in 2002 27/12 on 45% in 2004 while injured... so again, now my post isn't just directed at him, but also you, go for it

[DaOldLion]

Dirk was injured in 2001, it was also his 3rd year in the league, and he still lit up the Spurs for 46/18 in the elimination game, and had 30+ in just about any game he was healthy in

He did 28/13 on 45% in 2002 27/12 on 45% in 2004 while injured... so again, now my post isn't just directed at him, but also you, go for it

they lost that game by 20 points.. he wasn't "impressive" (your claim) in the 01 playoffs.. shooting 42% and only grabbing 8 rebounds is not impressive for a 7 footer, especially when he's only averaging 23 ppg

in 02 he shot 40% against the Kings, which includes game 4 where the Mavs lost by only 2 points while Dirk shot 32%.. he had plenty of help that series (Finley putting up 25/6 on 45%, Nash with 19/9 on 46%) again.. not that impressive


you didn't mention 04 in your original post, you mentioned 05, which wasn't impressive at all.. in 05 he was laughably bad in the first round, shot 35% for the series and in game 7 put up 14 points on 36%.. and his team still won by like 40 so he had plenty of help

these type of things get swept under the rug with Dirk, while other guys get crucified for stuff like that

[derb2k2]

dat thread resurrection doe!

Dirk is a champion now so I gotta give my respects

[ArbitraryWater]

they lost that game by 20 points.. he wasn't "impressive" (your claim) in the 01 playoffs.. shooting 42% and only grabbing 8 rebounds is not impressive for a 7 footer, especially when he's only averaging 23 ppg

in 02 he shot 40% against the Kings, which includes game 4 where the Mavs lost by only 2 points while Dirk shot 32%.. he had plenty of help that series (Finley putting up 25/6 on 45%, Nash with 19/9 on 46%) again.. not that impressive


you didn't mention 04 in your original post, you mentioned 05, which wasn't impressive at all.. in 05 he was laughably bad in the first round, shot 35% for the series and in game 7 put up 14 points on 36%.. and his team still won by like 40 so he had plenty of help

these type of things get swept under the rug with Dirk, while other guys get crucified for stuff like that

You're literally picking out single games... do you even know they lost that 2001 game because Finley shot 1 of 17? And which other guys get crucified? for what? Kobe and Bron get crucified.. no one else, they're the 2 'new' ones experiencing this social media treatment, Duncan doesn't, Shaq was too good...

Dirk has a top 7 all time good/bad playoff run ratio... 2005, 2007, there are no other underwhelming runs... JUST THAT GOOD

[StephHamann]

[DaOldLion]

You're literally picking out single games... do you even know they lost that 2001 game because Finley shot 1 of 17? And which other guys get crucified? for what? Kobe and Bron get crucified.. no one else, they're the 2 'new' ones experiencing this social media treatment, Duncan doesn't, Shaq was too good...

Dirk has a top 7 all time good/bad playoff run ratio... 2005, 2007, there are no other underwhelming runs... JUST THAT GOOD

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