Reggie Miller Discussion

[Reggie43]

Reggie Miller mind****ed this dude so hard it turned into an obsession

[Roundball_Rock]

Slight error (listed his 3 point numbers for Game 6 in the 99' ECF). Here is the corrected info:

4 for 9 for 12 points (lose by 1)
3 for 10 for 12 points (win by 12)
9 for 19 for 30 points (lose by 7)
3 for 18 for 8 points (lose by 8, eliminated)

In total, he averaged 15.5 on 33.9% shooting (with 3.3 boards and 2.3 assists) in Games 3-6. Allan Houston averaged 20.0 on 44.8% shooting as a comparison.

The year before, in the 98' ECF, which many others would say was their best shot at a ring a similar thing happened (the Pacers came closest to beating the MJ/Pippen/Rodman Bulls):

5 for 14 for 16 points (L by 6)
4 for 13 for 19 points (L by 6)
9 for 15 for 28 points (W by 2)
5 for 11 for 15 points (W by 2)
5 for 10 for 14 points (L by 19)
2 for 13 for 8 points (W by 3)
7 for 13 for 22 points (L by 5)

So he supposedly is this Curry-like scorer and he is averaging 17.4 PPG on 12.7 shots (only 1.6 boards, 2.0 assists)?

[tpols]

Reggie Miller mind****ed this dude so hard it turned into an obsession

it's crazy....

the expectations for reggie are so high that if he couldn't beat MJ + Pippen with Rik Smits as his next best player, he was a loser.

And the hilarious part is roundrock considers Pippen to be >> Miller, so he admits the Bulls just vastly out talented Indiana.

Yet they were a hair away from beating them?




Something aint adding up.

[tpols]

Reggie Miller mind****ed this dude so hard it turned into an obsession

he turned him into spike lee.

[Reggie43]

he turned him into spike lee.

The only arguments he has is built on lies and deceit. Poor dude cant think of anything smart and has to result to copy pasting another mans work (Kblaze). Imagine insisting a high scoring low usage player is somehow a bad thing

[Reggie43]

Reggie Miller winning playoff games at age 39...


28 points and the dagger


Game high 33 points

Boston writer getting triggered by Uncle Reggie after these games...

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/arti...emplate=ampart

The NBA will be better off once Reggie Miller is gone from the game.

Basketball fans surely want my head for such a statement -- after all, Reggie's one of the few remaining holdouts from the most recent 90's heyday of the NBA. Michael, Scottie, Isiah, Karl, Magic ... they're all gone.

But for all his unbelievable performances, for all his clutch shots, Reggie Miller is nothing more than just another punk.

Why do people tune out a cornrowed and tattooed Allen Iverson, spew venom at a hard-nosed Ron Artest, or boo a sexually perverse Kobe Bryant, yet worship the grinning Miller with those cute, taxi-cab ears?


Because he's put a con on the NBA fans almost as good as he's snowing the officials in this playoff series.

With all the drama and intrigue of the Celtics-Pacers first-round matchup, you'd think these were close, heated games. Instead, it's been one back-and-forth affair sandwiched between two blowouts, with Miller front and center.

It's Reggie with those cheap flops, Reggie with those leg kicks into a defender, Reggie grabbing the opposition's arm coming off a pick and swinging them out of the way when the officials' view is obstructed.

But Reggie's impending retirement means eventually, he'll even be cheered in Boston.

[houston]

reggie so overrated

[ralph_i_el]

Miller clearly is ahead of Klay all-time--Klay is only halfway through his career. Comparing them through age 28 is revealing (94' season for Miller, before Spike Lee made him a star):

All-star: Klay 5, Miller 1
All-NBA: Klay 2, Miller 0
Top 10 MVP: Klay 1, Miller 0
All-D: Klay 1, Miller 0

Klay has accomplished a lot more to date. We have to see how the rest of his career unfolds but he is clearly on track to finish ahead of Miller. Klay is a better version of Miller: similar shooter who can play strong defense on the other team's best perimeter player, while Miller was a non-factor on defense.

Statistically (through age 28) they are similar as well:

Miller 19.3/3.3/3.2 64% TS 21.6% usage
Klay 19.5/3.5/2.3 58% TS 24.7% usage

Miller more efficient but he is doing it on notably lower volume. Only Reggie could have 21.6% usage and be considered a "first option."

Check out their scoring when you adjust for pace.

[Horatio33]

If Miller hit those shots against the Charlotte Hornets instead of the New York Knicks no one would care. Its the mystique and the Spike Lee thing. It made Miller. He was nowhere near as good as his legend.

[Reggie43]

If Miller hit those shots against the Charlotte Hornets instead of the New York Knicks no one would care. Its the mystique and the Spike Lee thing. It made Miller. He was nowhere near as good as his legend.

Except that he had similar playoff moments against Shaq/Penny Magic, Jordans Bulls, Iversons Sixers, Ray/Glen/Sam Bucks, Shaq/Kobe Lakers, Kidds Nets etc. but fans barely remember them because thats how underrated he was...

[Roundball_Rock]

If Miller hit those shots against the Charlotte Hornets instead of the New York Knicks no one would care. Its the mystique and the Spike Lee thing. It made Miller. He was nowhere near as good as his legend.

Amen! Think about it, before Spike Lee and New York here was his resume:

Miller from 1987-1994

1x all-star, 0x all-NBA

Miller from 1995-2000

4x all-star, 3x all-NBA (all third teams)

So all of a sudden at age 29 he becomes a perennial all-star? It is ridiculous. He was basically the same player throughout the entire 90's. What changed is what you referenced. Now we have to hear about him as being a superstar, the second best guard of the 90's, and other nonsense 26 years later that no one thought when all this was actually happening in the 90's. Thanks, Spike!

[Nashty]

Better than Kobe.

[ZenMaster7210]

This is stomach turning cringe. All this listings of accolades and not one mention about modern era vs the 90s in terms of difference of the game for guards. Plus skimming over the part where Klay has played with the greatest shooter and floor spacer of all time....Still routinely putting up 15 ppg stinkers in the Finals. You are an awful troll and a disgusting human being. Leave here and crawl back to whatever hole you slithered without from.

He is absolute scum. Klay ****ing Thompson over Reggie? Are you nuts!

[Roundball_Rock]

Poor Reggie, the rules were unfair! That isn't how history works. Your all-time ranking is based on what you actually accomplished--not theoretical stuff if time machines existed. You have to be quite ignorant to think otherwise. Pick up a history book. Maybe William Howard Taft would be the GOAT if he was president in 1861 instead of Lincoln. No one cares--he wasn't. Maybe Alexander the Great wouldn't be so great in 21st century warfare. Who knows--no one cares enough to even waste time on the alternate universe. Historical figures are judged by their historical record. If Reggie couldn't get it done when he played, too bad.

If Miller played on the Warriors...he would be Klay without the defense. He benefited from his era--his reputation is heavily based on (nominally) being the #1 option on a perennial contender. If he played today he would be the #3 option on teams like the Warriors, Lakers, Rockets, or Clippers just like Klay would be (or Ray Allen for that matter). Miller gets to have it both ways: the credit of being a #1 option without the scrutiny a player in that role would get, which he evaded because the people covering him then understood what he was. They weren't going to assess him against the same standards as superstars.

All this talk of rules and no mention of Miller benefiting from a shorter three point line for three seasons (he averaged 25.7 PPG in the playoffs with the WNBA line; 22.5 PPG for the rest of his prime)...

[Manny98]

poor mans Klay Thompson

This still the second best shooting guard of the 90s tho i give him that