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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by AirBonner View Post
    Like the way MJ massacred that investment banker?
    the investment banker played in the ncaa and the 1 on 1 was at like 50%. Its a joke. Plus id rather lose to an investment banker in my 40's than to jason terry in my prime on the biggest stage with a superteam. But hey thats just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    the investment banker played in the ncaa and the 1 on 1 was at like 50%. Its a joke. Plus id rather lose to an investment banker in my 40's than to jason terry in my prime on the biggest stage with a superteam. But hey thats just me.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    MJ wouldn't be able to drive on Rose because Rose is quicker?

    OP confirmed for not knowing what he's talking about.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    JJ Barea beat up libron though, for real

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Rose getting into a defensive position while MJ is backing him down isnt going to allow him to get maximum vertical or close in it order to block his shot. You're also forgetting that prime MJ himself had an insane vertical and was 4 inches taller. The physics isnt working out in your head as you think. Let's look at the air MJ gets here:



    That's 35 year old MJ. No Mason isnt jumping high to contest the shot, but hes 6'7 with long arms. MJ clears that pretty easily. Note that MJ bumps Mason as he makes his spin fake and that little bump will affect the defender. Then MJ jumps up high AND fades back. Again, this 35 is year old MJ. Your summation of how Rose defends that 'cause Rose got a crazy vert!' respectfully sounds like someone who doesnt have much experience playing basketball. You're thinking about Rose's vertical leap in situations where he can show it off best like a breakaway dunk or drive to the rim and get room to take off.

    Heres 40 year old MJ shooting over an athletic Shawn Marion:



    MJ at this stage wouldnt get anywhere near the lift prime MJ would. Marion got close, but not close enough.

    Heres MJ fading on 19 year old Kobe:



    Kobe didnt get Rose's air but again, taller than Rose and longer arms to contest make up any different in vert with a 6'2 player.

    You're also acting like the fadeaway was his sole weapon in the post. Here's 6'6 Shandon Anderson thinking MJ is going up for his fadeaway. Except:



    However you see it going in your head......isnt how it's going to go.
    This is how:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    Hed have to anticipate
    He anticipates. Its not just 'crazy vert', he does this as well one on one.




    Remember this is a diminished athleticism post injury.


    But even that version has clamped athletic guys like Wall, Westbrook, Lavine, Derozan in the last years... Add that anticipation to this leaping ability and timing





    He was strong as well. Of course MJ would score some buckets over any defence, but some are gonna be flukes like the one over Marion. Like those of Harden.

    Gotta love though how all the LeStains dont know what their agenda should be here. pa the tic

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    We all know rose could have been a much better player than he is for his entire career but his longevity just sucks balls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronbron23 View Post
    the investment banker played in the ncaa and the 1 on 1 was at like 50%. Its a joke. Plus id rather lose to an investment banker in my 40's than to jason terry in my prime on the biggest stage with a superteam. But hey thats just me.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    And I thought those Jordan, Lebron, Curry and Pippen stans are delusional I guess we should never be surprised with anything on Ish.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Jalen Rose at his peak would do a better job defending Jordan than Derrick Rose. He was 6'8" fairly athletic much longer and stronger in defending the post.

    *biased pacers fan

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by julius erving View Post
    rose wasn't that great!even when he was healty he lost in to the heat 2011,and lebron held him to 19 a game.jordan went to the finals doing almost by him self.rose dosent even belong in same conversation as jordan!
    Mj was 1-9 without pippen, duh...

    Also, d-rose led the bulls that had a rookie hc to 62 wins and ecf appearance in his mvp season during his third year playing in the league.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Lol i never said rose was great. I just said that he could have been better himself if not for those disruptive injuries he had before reaching his 5th year in the league.

    As for his teammates, none of them are really that exceptional..

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by PeroAntic View Post
    This is how:


    He anticipates. Its not just 'crazy vert', he does this as well one on one.




    Remember this is a diminished athleticism post injury.


    But even that version has clamped athletic guys like Wall, Westbrook, Lavine, Derozan in the last years... Add that anticipation to this leaping ability and timing





    He was strong as well. Of course MJ would score some buckets over any defence, but some are gonna be flukes like the one over Marion. Like those of Harden.

    Gotta love though how all the LeStains dont know what their agenda should be here. pa the tic
    LeBron would wax both of them one-on-one and you'd know this if you understood how important size is in one-on-one. Keep shrieking about "LeStains" doe. You probably think Rose would beat LeBron one-on-one too

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    The heavier the balls are in their crotches, the more powerful.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer View Post
    Rose would not beat MJ. But if it was Shaq vs MJ it's way different.
    Just was going to post this. MJ has an advantage due to size. One v one size negates some skill. Just like how Kareem destroyed Dr.J one v one

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Shaq would beat pretty much everyone one on one. Maybe not Yao though.

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    Default Re: Prime Rose would beat MJ one on one

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Shaq would beat pretty much everyone one on one. Maybe not Yao though.
    Imagine him having one on one against smaller dudes like iverson or robinson

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