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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Nobody even knows the per game leaders in any other sport
Exactly. The most iconic record in American sports is the home run record. Does anybody know who the HR per game leader is*? It's the same in every other sport. Nick Foles threw 27 TD's in 10 starts in 2013 and nobody went around talking about how great his "TD per game" numbers were. In 2017 Ezekiel Elliot was the rushing yards per game leader but the rushing champ was Kareem Hunt.
*It is McGwire per at bat while Aaron is 40th--which confirms the point. No one cares about per at bat. Aaron is the (legitimate) HR king.
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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Which is exactly the same for say....nfl rushing leader. But we don’t care. I don’t know that there’s a right or wrong. Just that counting playoff totals is idiotic because history changed the formats too many times and more dominant performances lead to less points because you sweep people instead of going deep into a series.
I agree for a single year that makes sense, but when you're comparing two players over 13 playoffs each and one made nine finals but the other one only made six well yeah it makes sense the guy with nine finals is going to score more points. He wasn't eliminated in the first round three times so your argument falls flat.
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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by ELITEpower23
I agree for a single year that makes sense, but when you're comparing two players over 13 playoffs each and one made nine finals but the other one only made six well yeah it makes sense the guy with nine finals is going to score more points. He wasn't eliminated in the first round three times so your argument falls flat.
Add to that that MJ didn’t allow a game 7 and won all 6 of his finals and it makes sense
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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by Soundwave
PPG is the correct metric to use to judge who is the better scorer, it cuts out the BS and tells you who scores more on the basketball court on per game basis.
Total points is stupid, a guy could win the scoring title based on the fact that some other guy had an ankle sprain that kept him out 5 games or something. The NBA changed this ages ago for good reason.
For a single season, okau sure. For a career? Nope.
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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by 2ball
Add to that that MJ didn’t allow a game 7 and won all 6 of his finals and it makes sense
He has 6 Finals to 9
He had 3 1st rd loss to 0
Its obvious...
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Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by ELITEpower23
He has 6 Finals to 9
He had 3 1st rd loss to 0
Its obvious...
MJ never failed when he got to the big dance.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: What’s a better argument for GOAT than 6,911?
Originally Posted by 2ball
Add to that that MJ didn’t allow a game 7 and won all 6 of his finals and it makes sense
So why did he "allow" Game 7's in the ECF and ECSF as well as Game 5's (the final game of the first round then)?
The "allow" stuff is mythology but you are on to a legitimate point: the Bulls were so dominant they had fewer games than other finals teams or even champs. The Bulls did not lose a single first round game during their title years, for example (3-0 and 3-1 in 94' and 95'). They went 24-8 even in the ECF, including 20-5 from 91' to 97'. To put that ECF dominance in perspective, they had a 62 win pace in the ECF alone and a 66 win pace in the ECF prior to 98' when they were running low on gas. This against the second best team (in theory) in their conference...
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