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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by tpols
For the playoffs, TT led the league in offensive rebounding during Cleveland's runs.
And get this... he has a godly 130 ORTG in the playoffs for his career with big sample size.
Why did curry outrebound TT in the 2017 Finals?
Why did bran outrebound TT in the 2015 and 2018 Finals?
Can you imagine Rodman getting out rebounded by Curry and bran in back to back finals?
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by KD7
Did you see what Donatas Sabonis did to Kevin Love in the Cavs vs Pacers series?
Now imagine what the likes of Kemp and Malone would do
This. It is no coincidence all the Bulls rings came with an elite defender at PF on the roster.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Kevin Love would also change the way the Bulls played, would he not? He'd be able to stretch the floor, tho he'd do it much less than he does now. And he'd be a guy in the post, and would be a perfect fit in the triangle.
If you can replace Longley with a great defensive player then it's a great trade. Either way, who knows. Like for like you're not exactly getting a nobody. Would be much different.
Not that Rodman was close to usual best in either series against the Jazz. He played great defense, inevitably, but he averaged 10RPG over 36MPG those two series, without playing near 36MPG either series.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
If Love is in the 90s he isn't shooting threes. He would be taking mid-range shots like Grant or Wennington could do but he would provide more post scoring than any Bulls' big man could do (of course they used MJ and Pippen in the post a lot, especially MJ). Was there any star big man who shot threes back then? There were people like Sam Perkins, Cliff Robinson, etc. but the stars rarely if ever took threes.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
People acting like Love wasn't an all star rebounding champ that was a franchise player.
Would he be as good defensively as Rodman? of course not.
But he'd be a much much better defender that he's been in his career if he'd played under MJ.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
If Love is in the 90s he isn't shooting threes. He would be taking mid-range shots like Grant or Wennington could do but he would provide more post scoring than any Bulls' big man could do (of course they used MJ and Pippen in the post a lot, especially MJ). Was there any star big man who shot threes back then? There were people like Sam Perkins, Cliff Robinson, etc. but the stars rarely if ever took threes.
But even if he's only 20 feet out, that opens it up. Plus he could take advantage of how great both Jordan and Pippen are in the open court, with those outlet passes.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
True. While the Bulls had some big men with intermediate range, none were the scoring threats Love was so Love would command a lot more of those shots than, say, Grant did.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
This. It is no coincidence all the Bulls rings came with an elite defender at PF on the roster.
Do you really feel Horace was an elite defender? I always thought of him as being a bit soft. Rodman was elite, Grant was good.
Last edited by RogueBorg; 05-01-2020 at 12:49 PM.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by RogueBorg
Do you really feel Horace was an elite defender? I always thought of him as being a bit soft. Rodman was elite, Grant was good.
It depends on how you define "elite" but Grant was all-Defense second team for years in a row but never made a first. So let's say he was a top 10 type defender but not a DPOY contender.
Rodman definitely was an upgrade on defense but he was a zero on offense while Grant provided some scoring. Overall Rodman clearly was the better player but Grant gets forgotten today. He is an afterthought in the doc.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by Mamba4Life
Why did curry outrebound TT in the 2017 Finals?
Why did bran outrebound TT in the 2015 and 2018 Finals?
Can you imagine Rodman getting out rebounded by Curry and bran in back to back finals?
body bagged
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by Mamba4Life
Why did curry outrebound TT in the 2017 Finals?
Why did bran outrebound TT in the 2015 and 2018 Finals?
Can you imagine Rodman getting out rebounded by Curry and bran in back to back finals?
You're cherry picking series and names.
Tristan Thompson out rebounded everybody in the entire NBA on the offensive glass in the 2015-2018 playoffs.
He had a rodman like hustle and nose for the ball.
But a 130 ORTG. Rodman NEVER did that. And they both got the same type of buckets so its apples to apples.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Bulls didn't need scoring! They were top offense for much of their run. Kukoc had 17 ppg in 1995 on good efficiency before Jordan came back. In 1996 he was underutilized with 13 ppg. Team needed defence & rebounding of Rodman.
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock
If Love is in the 90s he isn't shooting threes. He would be taking mid-range shots like Grant or Wennington could do but he would provide more post scoring than any Bulls' big man could do (of course they used MJ and Pippen in the post a lot, especially MJ). Was there any star big man who shot threes back then? There were people like Sam Perkins, Cliff Robinson, etc. but the stars rarely if ever took threes.
I think Longley was a better post scorer than love
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Re: How many rings do the Bulls get if you replace Rodman for Love?
Well obviously they get the first three but after that not sure .maybe get one out of the next three
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