LeBron v Duncan

[FireDavidKahn]

Duncan quite easily and comfortably.

Old spurs pretty much destroyed Lebron's prime heats

I'll give Lebron a pass in 2007 even though he choked hard. His teammates gave him enough help in each game, unfortunately Lebron was bricking his shots left and right

Tony Park + Manu Ginobli + Bowen + Horry > Gibson + Pavlovic + Gooden

First attempt against the Spurs.

Second attempt:

28.2 ppg on 57.1%/51.9%/79.3%
7.8 rpg
4 apg
2 spg

"LeBron lost that series"



LeBron is so good that he drags teams that have Gibson/Pavlovic/Gooden as its next best 3 players and loses to a team that consisted of prime Duncan/Parker/Ginobli and gets ripped for it.

LeBron then averages 28.2 ppg on 57.1%/51.9%/79.3%, 7.8 rpg, 4 apg and 2 spg yet somehow he lost that series

[SouBeachTalents]

Pathetic topic. Duncan slaughtered Bron's most stacked once and was a bounce away + lucky ray allen shot from beating them a second time. Disrespectful to Timmy...literally no argument for Bron except checkmystat$

But for real, it's pointless making LeBron related polls on here. the vast majority of posters are set in their beliefs and will vote the same way regardless of the question

[deathawaitu]

LeBron is a much better basketball player than Duncan. It's not particularly close.



Are you autistic? The '14 Heat were the oldest team in the league.

Also, LeBron averaged 10 PPG on 45% in the 4th Q's of those Finals in '07.

Low IQ post from a low IQ poster. Nuff said

What was the average age between the Spur big 3 and heat's big 3

Ya sit down and go back flipping burgers

[deathawaitu]

Tony Park + Manu Ginobli + Bowen + Horry > Gibson + Pavlovic + Gooden

First attempt against the Spurs.

Second attempt:

28.2 ppg on 57.1%/51.9%/79.3%
7.8 rpg
4 apg
2 spg

"LeBron lost that series"



LeBron is so good that he drags teams that have Gibson/Pavlovic/Gooden as its next best 3 players and loses to a team that consisted of prime Duncan/Parker/Ginobli and gets ripped for it.

LeBron then averages 28.2 ppg on 57.1%/51.9%/79.3%, 7.8 rpg, 4 apg and 2 spg yet somehow he lost that series

empty stats

Didn't the heat make history at that time? Losing by the biggest margin?

Lebron would pad his stats against the spurs backup once the game was already decided

Nice attempt though trying to boost your hero Might want to watch the games next time like the rest of us and not boxscore

[Dbrog]

But for real, it's pointless making LeBron related polls on here. the vast majority of posters are set in their beliefs and will vote the same way regardless of the question

It's truly always strange for me to see even after all these years on this site.

2003 Champ Spurs - Rounding up (also the Year they ended Kobe and Shaq 3-peat if people didn't know)
Duncan - 25/15/5/3, 53%
Tony - 15/3/4, 40%
Stephen Jackson - 13/4/3, 41%
Manu - 9/4/3, 39%
Zombie Robinson - 8/7, 54%
Malik Rose - 9/6, 42%

This alone should kill any debate between Duncan and Bron. Duncan had a very "Cavalier" cast here and it still didn't stop him.

And just in case people want to bring up how he "lost" the FMVP to Parker in 07...

Here are his and Parker's stats:

20/11/4/2/.579 TS% in the Regular Season for Tim
19/3/5/1/.572 TS% in the Regular Season for Parker

26.1 - 21.4 PER
13.0 - 9.6 WS
.230 - .185 WS/48
7.1 - 2.1 BPM

Duncan was clearly the best Spur in the Regular Season.

What about the Playoffs?

22/12/3/3/.556 TS% for Tim
21/3/5/1/.523 TS% for Parker

27.4 - 18.7 PER
3.3 - 1.7 WS
.214 - .100 WS/48
7.2 - 0.5 BPM

Tim was far and away the best Spur in the Playoffs.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's truly always strange for me to see even after all these years on this site.

2003 Champ Spurs - Rounding up (also the Year they ended Kobe and Shaq 3-peat if people didn't know)
Duncan - 25/15/5/3, 53%
Tony - 15/3/4, 40%
Stephen Jackson - 13/4/3, 41%
Manu - 9/4/3, 39%
Zombie Robinson - 8/7, 54%
Malik Rose - 9/6, 42%

This alone should kill any debate between Duncan and Bron. Duncan had a very "Cavalier" cast here and it still didn't stop him.

And just in case people want to bring up how he "lost" the FMVP to Parker in 07...

Here are his and Parker's stats:

20/11/4/2/.579 TS% in the Regular Season for Tim
19/3/5/1/.572 TS% in the Regular Season for Parker

26.1 - 21.4 PER
13.0 - 9.6 WS
.230 - .185 WS/48
7.1 - 2.1 BPM

Duncan was clearly the best Spur in the Regular Season.

What about the Playoffs?

22/12/3/3/.556 TS% for Tim
21/3/5/1/.523 TS% for Parker

27.4 - 18.7 PER
3.3 - 1.7 WS
.214 - .100 WS/48
7.2 - 0.5 BPM

Tim was far and away the best Spur in the Playoffs.

Bro, it's fine if you want to argue Duncan > LeBron. I wouldn't agree but it's not an unreasonable opinion. But LeBron having "literally no argument" like he's Cedric Ceballos is where you are simply being implausible and hyperbolic. It's the kind of extremist argument you'd see in politics.

LeBron's a 4x MVP/3x FMVP/15x All-NBA & soon to be at the top of every conceivable leaderboard, he's going to have arguments over virtually every player imaginable. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it's gonna be

[red1]

man if lebron had actual coaching aka gregg popovich instead of mike brown


or if he was drafted into any organization other than the cleveland cavs

[red1]

larry hughes major free agent acquisition

[Dbrog]

Bro, it's fine if you want to argue Duncan > LeBron. I wouldn't agree but it's not an unreasonable opinion. But LeBron having "literally no argument" like he's Cedric Ceballos is where you are simply being implausible and hyperbolic. It's the kind of extremist argument you'd see in politics.

LeBron's a 4x MVP/3x FMVP/15x All-NBA & soon to be at the top of every conceivable leaderboard, he's going to have arguments over virtually every player imaginable. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it's gonna be

Yup. I know people will try to prop Bron up based on his stats. I'm sure the same would be done (it has on this board) if Wilt would have played in the more recent times. I can't really blame people who have only seen Brons career for doing this. For those of us that have seen all of both careers, it truly isn't close. Kobe and Duncan are close. Shaq and Duncan are close. Bron will just always be seen as someone who needed to team up and still disappointed expectations. I don't even blame Bron for this either. Unfortunately he came in at a time where the Celtics formed that superteam and rekt him every year...I'd team up too if that happened to me. Ironically, I'll always see Bron with parallels to KG (obviously Bron has better career). Both incredible well-rounded players who were perennial MVP candidates and could will teams to the playoffs with their leadership and talent. However, neither of them could win on the biggest stage because they had a bunch of trouble closing games, hence Kyrie or Ray Allen or Paul Pierce.

[Lebron23]

Lebron is a superior basketball player than Team Duncan. And he'll have more finals mvp by the end of this season.

[aj1987]

Low IQ post from a low IQ poster. Nuff said

What was the average age between the Spur big 3 and heat's big 3

Ya sit down and go back flipping burgers

How many accounts to do you need to spread your autism, you ****ing retard?

Since you want context now, how about the fact that Wade was injured that season? How about the fact that '14 was arguably the worst season of his career?

How about the FACT that the Heat shot 44% outside LeBron and Bosh averaged 5 rebounds a game?

empty stats

Didn't the heat make history at that time? Losing by the biggest margin?

Lebron would pad his stats against the spurs backup once the game was already decided

Nice attempt though trying to boost your hero Might want to watch the games next time like the rest of us and not boxscore

LeBron averaged like 3 points a game in the 4th Q's that Finals and on mediocre efficiency. LeBron was reason each game wasn't a 30 point blowout.

You might want to watch the games before spouting autistic drivel, retard.

However, neither of them could win on the biggest stage because they had a bunch of trouble closing games, hence Kyrie or Ray Allen or Paul Pierce.

Yeah, lets act like LeBron is not the GOAT game 7 performer and elimination performer in NBA history. Lets also pretend that LeBron doesn't have the most number of playoff game winners in NBA history.

Also did you compare LeBron to KG? A 4x MVP and 3x FMVP (only two players in the history of the sport have those accolades).

I swear, the posters on this board are getting dumber by the day.

[tpols]

Old man Duncan shit on him time and time again....

not even the prime or peak version.

He's the ultimate H2H trump card vs LeBron's rim running. Defensive intuition too strong.

Like scissors versus paper.

[dreamshake]

Duncan has more championships, beat LeBron twice in the Finals, didn’t have multiple team hops and collusions, Was coachable, played defense throughout his entire career.

Duncan easily.

Pretty much undeniable facts here.

[red1]

LBJ all day here. I've never seen a single player elevate so many different franchises.

single-handedly rescued the lakers from the dumpster - maybe not singlehandedly because he did recruit AD there.

he got bossman pat riley and the great heat franchise two more rings - you're welcome patrick.


and of course lebron singlehandedly saved cleveland from that disgusting 50+ year curse.


lebron kyrie and kevin love together erased 50 years of pain - all because of lebron's leadership.



this isnt a knock on timmy who is a certified GOAT - he just isnt the GOAT of the modern era, which lebron is.

[ShawkFactory]

Old man Duncan shit on him time and time again....

not even the prime or peak version.

He's the ultimate H2H trump card vs LeBron's rim running. Defensive intuition too strong.

Like scissors versus paper.

Like rock versus scissors is a way better analogy in the scenario you’ve created